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we still have people lowballing PS4 so late in the gen, I don't even want to see what they would forecast before this gen started.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
we still have people lowballing PS4 so late in the gen, I don't even want to see what they would forecast before this gen started.

I think some people can't accept the fact that PS4 will do better than Wii and Gameboy. That's all. Fanboy thing a a scary thing.

Last edited by Keiji - on 17 January 2019

DonFerrari said:
we still have people lowballing PS4 so late in the gen, I don't even want to see what they would forecast before this gen started.

yeah it is pretty bizarre.

no matter what form the PS5 takes, PS4 could easily sell decently for a t least a year (if not more) after the PS5 launches. it is not going not going to miraculously stop selling



Keiji said:
DonFerrari said:
we still have people lowballing PS4 so late in the gen, I don't even want to see what they would forecast before this gen started.

I think some people can't accept the fact that PS4 will do better than Wii and Gameboy. That's all. Fanboy thing a a scary thing.

I wouldn't say it is a fanboy thing. But it scares me when someone have seem sales curve of a lot of systems in VGC and thinks PS4 will just drop dead instantly.

twintail said:
DonFerrari said:
we still have people lowballing PS4 so late in the gen, I don't even want to see what they would forecast before this gen started.

yeah it is pretty bizarre.

no matter what form the PS5 takes, PS4 could easily sell decently for a t least a year (if not more) after the PS5 launches. it is not going not going to miraculously stop selling

Even if PS4 sells less than 5M after PS5 releases (I think not even PS3 sold so little, and it was very streached gen with saturation maxed) they would still pass Wii with ease due to PS5 not being even revealed in less than 6 months and released in less than 12m. And they will sell 10M between 6 and 12 months.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Keiji said:

I think some people can't accept the fact that PS4 will do better than Wii and Gameboy. That's all. Fanboy thing a a scary thing.

I wouldn't say it is a fanboy thing. But it scares me when someone have seem sales curve of a lot of systems in VGC and thinks PS4 will just drop dead instantly.

twintail said:

yeah it is pretty bizarre.

no matter what form the PS5 takes, PS4 could easily sell decently for a t least a year (if not more) after the PS5 launches. it is not going not going to miraculously stop selling

Even if PS4 sells less than 5M after PS5 releases (I think not even PS3 sold so little, and it was very streached gen with saturation maxed) they would still pass Wii with ease due to PS5 not being even revealed in less than 6 months and released in less than 12m. And they will sell 10M between 6 and 12 months.

This is really playing down at the highest levels :D

 Don't expect anything less than 106-108M by end of 2019.   Don't expect anything less than 12-13M sold in 2020, which makes around 120M by the end of 2020. 

PS4 will sell in 2021 as well, and a bit also in 2022.  130M+ is always my forecast for the end of its life cycle.   You wanna be very pessimistic ? you can place a bet with everybody about 125M sold, mark my words, and quote me again at the end of this Gen, with a smile on your face ;)

Last edited by Nate4Drake - on 18 January 2019

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Nate4Drake said:
DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't say it is a fanboy thing. But it scares me when someone have seem sales curve of a lot of systems in VGC and thinks PS4 will just drop dead instantly.

Even if PS4 sells less than 5M after PS5 releases (I think not even PS3 sold so little, and it was very streached gen with saturation maxed) they would still pass Wii with ease due to PS5 not being even revealed in less than 6 months and released in less than 12m. And they will sell 10M between 6 and 12 months.

This is really playing down at the highest levels :D

 Don't expect anything less than 106-108M by end of 2019.   Don't expect anything less than 12-13M sold in 2020, which makes around 120M by the end of 2020. 

PS4 will sell in 2021 as well, and a bit also in 2022.  130M+ is always my forecast for the end of its life cycle.   You wanna be very pessimistic ? you can place a bet with everybody about 125M sold, mark my words, and quote me again at the end of this Gen, with a smile on your face ;)

Yep, I find it very hard that PS4 will sell less than 120M. I think even Wii with monstrous drop sold 9M after the announcement of WiiU.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Nate4Drake said:

This is really playing down at the highest levels :D

 Don't expect anything less than 106-108M by end of 2019.   Don't expect anything less than 12-13M sold in 2020, which makes around 120M by the end of 2020. 

PS4 will sell in 2021 as well, and a bit also in 2022.  130M+ is always my forecast for the end of its life cycle.   You wanna be very pessimistic ? you can place a bet with everybody about 125M sold, mark my words, and quote me again at the end of this Gen, with a smile on your face ;)

Yep, I find it very hard that PS4 will sell less than 120M. I think even Wii with monstrous drop sold 9M after the announcement of WiiU.

I expect between 108M and 120M sold by the time the PS5 releases; based on a March 2020 or Nov 2020 release respectively.

As for sales after the PS5 releases, I expect the droop to be more than it has ever been in playstation history. So say around 15M of extra sales spread out through 2021 to 2023 after which I expect the PS4 t be discontinued, which should bring its Lifetime total to around 123M to 135M.

The reason for this drop will be BC. I believe the PS5 will have BC with the PS4, PS3, PS2 and PS1.

More importantly BC means that current PS4 owners will have very little reason to hold onto their PS4s. That means a lot, because as the rapid uptake of PS5 begins over its first 2 years there will also be a marked increase in used PS4s and PS4pros on the market. These used consoles will no doubt be cheaper than whatever price the PS4 will officially be at the time. We are talking people being able to get a PS4 for as little as $130 and a Pro for as little as $220. That will no doubt affect sales of brand new hardware.  

I also expect the PS5 initial uptake (first 3 years) to be even more aggressive than that of the PS4. Even though I expect the PS5 will come at a launch price of $499.



Amazing, particularly if we consider that NS too sold amazing numbers, that XBOne too sells very well during BF and Xmas period and even 3DS refused to die and sold well at least for this year. PS4 was very strong when competitors were weaker and it remained very strong when all the competitors showed their full strength too.



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bluemlittlem said:
PS4 will most likely crawl over the Wii's Total's and hit 105M, since the PS5 is just around the corner,Late 2019 or Early 2020.
If the PS5 doesnt happen until Late 2020-Early 2021, expect a price Drop and about 112M+ in sales or so.

Jesus christ. When will people stop underestimating the ps4. Not only will ps4 destroy the ps1 and Wii numbers but it will beat the combined sales of that game boy they totals about 120m.

KazumaKiryu said:
In Japan, there are large Resident Evil 2-commercials on a train station.

The hype train!