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Mr Puggsly said:
Mnementh said:

It's fine to celebrate milestones. Really. We celebrated them even for failures like WiiU and Vita. Only fewer of them.

On topic: Congrats Switch for another step.

Those platforms did so bad we celebrated every time they passed a million.

Frankly, I own all of these failed platforms as well. I have a OG Xbox, Gamecube, Vita, and Wii U sitting around. But not every milestone matters.

Actually no those platforms did what was standard for most gen as outside of market leader most serious comepetitors would often end up in the 20-30m range it was normal until the 360 gen.



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Wyrdness said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Those platforms did so bad we celebrated every time they passed a million.

Frankly, I own all of these failed platforms as well. I have a OG Xbox, Gamecube, Vita, and Wii U sitting around. But not every milestone matters.

Actually no those platforms did what was standard for most gen as outside of market leader most serious comepetitors would often end up in the 20-30m range it was normal until the 360 gen.

Around the 5th gen is probably when we saw the market grow significantly, maybe people around the world started using the same platforms, etc.

Either way, Switch is technically 9th gen. At this point, a console only selling 20-30 million in its life would be considered a failure among the big three. I mean 30 million might have arguably seemed great for Wii U and Vita considering how they ended up, but they both aimed for better than that I imagine.



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SpokenTruth said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Look, we gotta put a cap on when celebrate _____ out selling _____.

The only real Nintendo console that didn't outsell the Xbox was the Wii U, it was a disaster. Kudos to the Switch, it will likely sell a 100 million units or whatever.

Did you just suggest that the Gamecube was not a real Nintendo console?

I know I’d certainly agree with that suggestion =)

But I feel similarly about the Wii U. They weren’t major Nintendo consoles, more like stopgaps.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Wyrdness said:

Actually no those platforms did what was standard for most gen as outside of market leader most serious comepetitors would often end up in the 20-30m range it was normal until the 360 gen.

Around the 5th gen is probably when we saw the market grow significantly, maybe people around the world started using the same platforms, etc.

Either way, Switch is technically 9th gen. At this point, a console only selling 20-30 million in its life would be considered a failure among the big three. I mean 30 million might have arguably seemed great for Wii U and Vita considering how they ended up, but they both aimed for better than that I imagine.

Current (8th gen).  Unless you think you can convince the entire industry they are wrong and you are right.

Jumpin said:
SpokenTruth said:

Did you just suggest that the Gamecube was not a real Nintendo console?

I know I’d certainly agree with that suggestion =)

But I feel similarly about the Wii U. They weren’t major Nintendo consoles, more like stopgaps.

Stopgaps?  Between what and what?

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SpokenTruth said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Around the 5th gen is probably when we saw the market grow significantly, maybe people around the world started using the same platforms, etc.

Either way, Switch is technically 9th gen. At this point, a console only selling 20-30 million in its life would be considered a failure among the big three. I mean 30 million might have arguably seemed great for Wii U and Vita considering how they ended up, but they both aimed for better than that I imagine.

Current (8th gen).  Unless you think you can convince the entire industry they are wrong and you are right.

Jumpin said:

I know I’d certainly agree with that suggestion =)

But I feel similarly about the Wii U. They weren’t major Nintendo consoles, more like stopgaps.

Stopgaps?  Between what and what?

Yeah Switch is 8th gen, don't know what that guy is talking about.

Also don't get that guy's stopgaps comment. Wii U wasn't a stopgap, it was just halfway between two successful ideas, and it turned out half way between two things is a bad thing. And Gamecube was a great console, not sure why anyone would ever think there was something wrong with it. Just because it didn't sell much doesn't mean it wasn't awesome.



Slownenberg said:
SpokenTruth said:

Current (8th gen).  Unless you think you can convince the entire industry they are wrong and you are right.

Stopgaps?  Between what and what?

Yeah Switch is 8th gen, don't know what that guy is talking about.

Also don't get that guy's stopgaps comment. Wii U wasn't a stopgap, it was just halfway between two successful ideas, and it turned out half way between two things is a bad thing. And Gamecube was a great console, not sure why anyone would ever think there was something wrong with it. Just because it didn't sell much doesn't mean it wasn't awesome.

Sorry have to disagree with you both he's not wrong in him saying it's 9th gen as it succeeded an 8th gen platform, current doesn't mean two different gens can't be active at the same time.



Wyrdness said:
Slownenberg said:

Yeah Switch is 8th gen, don't know what that guy is talking about.

Also don't get that guy's stopgaps comment. Wii U wasn't a stopgap, it was just halfway between two successful ideas, and it turned out half way between two things is a bad thing. And Gamecube was a great console, not sure why anyone would ever think there was something wrong with it. Just because it didn't sell much doesn't mean it wasn't awesome.

Sorry have to disagree with you both he's not wrong in him saying it's 9th gen as it succeeded an 8th gen platform, current doesn't mean two different gens can't be active at the same time.

So, you also think you can convince the entire industry that Switch is 9th gen?   You are also debating against history as we've had several instances of multiple consoles by the same company in the same generation. 



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SpokenTruth said:
Wyrdness said:

Sorry have to disagree with you both he's not wrong in him saying it's 9th gen as it succeeded an 8th gen platform, current doesn't mean two different gens can't be active at the same time.

So, you also think you can convince the entire industry that Switch is 9th gen?   You are also debating against history as we've had several instances of multiple consoles by the same company in the same generation. 

I don't need to convince an entire industry on reality especially one that changes its tune to suit itself want to bang on about history Mega Drive competed against the NES for 2 years along side the master system yet is still a Gen 4 platform so don't play that notion on me either.