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shikamaru317 said:
I grew up watching him and love that dance, but there is just no way that he is going to win this, even if he does manage to successfully copyright the dance, the fact is that Fortnite had the dance in the game before he copyrighted it, so as long as the emote isn't called "the Carlton dance" in game, it should be grandfathered that they are allowed to keep using it afaik. But i'm no legal expert.

Well, to chime in here: the didn't called it the Carlton, but calling it Fresh actually means they were aware of the precedence.

I agree he (and the others suing about dance emotes) shouldn't be successful in court, not because I don't want them to earn money, but because we are already in a society there with ridiculously small stuff people sue to gain money. It's about a few seconds of stuff. This I see more as a homage than copyright infringement. But yeah, lawyers and stuff. No idea how this will end up. Could also be, that the producers of the show claim the copyright for the dance and sue both Fortnite and Ribeira (for using it outside the show).



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d21lewis said:

It was funny when he did it on the show but even then it seemed like it was funny because he was referencing an uptight, well to do, stereotype. Like "Black guys do it like this but white guys, they do it like THIS!" type of humor. I'm pretty sure he got the dance from some place else. When this is discounted, I hope he isn't smacked with a countersuit or court costs.

And again, that's IF y can somehow copyright a motion that the human body does.

It's funny that you should say that.

“It was never even intended to be funny; it was just that he was dancing,” Ribeiro said.

“The dance is ultimately Courteney Cox in the Bruce Springsteen video ‘Dancing in the Dark;’ that’s the basis. Or in Eddie Murphy’s ‘Delirious’ video, The White Man Dance as he called it. And I said, ‘That is the corniest dance on the planet that I know of, so why don’t I do that?’”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/alfonso-ribeiro-reveals-the-origin-of-the-carlton-dance-from-fresh-prince-10465625.html



i think this is bs. had he copyrighted/registered the dance?



Fuck this shit. Hope this dumbass loses,.

Copyrighting body movements is some of the biggest bullshit Ive ever heard. I fear for the precendent set if he comes out victorious.



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For the record people, the wrestler DDP sued Jay-Z for doing his "Diamond Cutter" gesture. DDP actually won that case but I believe he also owns his character.

This is a bit different though. Who actually owns that dance if anybody? NBC or Alfonso?

There probably is some validity to stealing dances. I mean Fortnite would probably run into legal problems if they were stealing the latest dances. But this dance is old, its been used many times outside of Fresh Prince, even recently Forza Horizon 4 used it. Basically, there has been no effort to protect the dance so it feels like a cash grab because the most popular game is using it.



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All I know is that when the dust settles, everybody's going to start copy-writing dance moves now and new laws will be made for them.



CuCabeludo said:

i think this is bs. had he copyrighted/registered the dance?

There is no need to register for copyright in countries abiding the Berne Convention, which are most.



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this isn't the first and won't be the last law suite fortnite gets about dance moves in the game they should honestly just give the credit to the people instead of renaming known dance moves and selling them.



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pokoko said:
d21lewis said:

It was funny when he did it on the show but even then it seemed like it was funny because he was referencing an uptight, well to do, stereotype. Like "Black guys do it like this but white guys, they do it like THIS!" type of humor. I'm pretty sure he got the dance from some place else. When this is discounted, I hope he isn't smacked with a countersuit or court costs.

And again, that's IF y can somehow copyright a motion that the human body does.

It's funny that you should say that.

“It was never even intended to be funny; it was just that he was dancing,” Ribeiro said.

“The dance is ultimately Courteney Cox in the Bruce Springsteen video ‘Dancing in the Dark;’ that’s the basis. Or in Eddie Murphy’s ‘Delirious’ video, The White Man Dance as he called it. And I said, ‘That is the corniest dance on the planet that I know of, so why don’t I do that?’”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/alfonso-ribeiro-reveals-the-origin-of-the-carlton-dance-from-fresh-prince-10465625.html

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Well, that's that. 

 

(Also, autocorrect changed "discovered" to "discounted" in my previous post. I didn't catch it.)



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