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Pyro as Bill said:

Advantages and disadvantages. Gotta take the rough with the smooth.

The Guardian is only to be read for chuckles. 



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journalism is such a joke in the UK, with express.co.uk taking the lead... such bias and misinformation, honestly I wonder if they even respect their readers

but yes Brexit turned out good for vaccination, since the EU had to get approval from 27 individual countries for each vaccine, hence the delay, and it turned out to be a blessing since the new variant first spread in the UK

anyhow this vaccination topic is exaggerated in importance, even if the pandemic ends two weeks earlier because of a made in Brussels vaccine, it won't do much compared to the challenges the UK is facing



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

" since the EU had to get approval from 27 individual countries for each vaccine"
proof?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55401136
"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) authorised the drug for the EU's nearly 448 million inhabitants after it went into circulation in the UK and the US.
Hours after the EMA's decision, the European Commission gave its own formal approval for the use of the jab."



Barozi said:

" since the EU had to get approval from 27 individual countries for each vaccine"
proof?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55401136
"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) authorised the drug for the EU's nearly 448 million inhabitants after it went into circulation in the UK and the US.
Hours after the EMA's decision, the European Commission gave its own formal approval for the use of the jab."

this one explains it really well

https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/08/why-does-the-eu-take-longer-than-the-uk-to-approve-a-covid-19-vaccine

"But under EMA rules, Prof Evans added, a vaccine still needs to be approved by representatives of every EU member state — and the European Commission — before it can enter general circulation in the bloc."



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

Pyro as Bill said:
JRPGfan said:

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*edit:
Ontop of alot of these fishing boats, makeing a liveing by selling to markets that relied on resturants ect.
Demand is low.....  Covid19 (closed resturants) + brexit, could kill alot of the UKs fishing industry.

Advantages and disadvantages. Gotta take the rough with the smooth.

UK has vaccinated abit more than rest of europe, because it started a few weeks earlier.

The reason why?

UK has over 100k dead to covid19
In london they are a week or so away from hospitals being overwhelmed (ei. cant treat everyone, with covid).
Yesterday alone 1564 people in the UK died to covid.

If the UK counted deaths (not just those tested positive before death, and within 28days of covid), its actual death pr 1million, would be around 1500 or so.
In Denmark our death pr 1million, is around 286.

UK has over 5 times as many dead, pr population, as we do in denmark to covid.
That said, good on you guys for being ahead of the pack when it comes to vaccinations.
Overall I think most countries in the EU will be finished vaccinateing around the same time periode (as the UK).
The limiting factor is how many dosses of vaccines you have comeing in, not who started a week or two earlier.

*source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/number-deaths-involving-covid-19-19620419

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 14 January 2021

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LurkerJ said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Advantages and disadvantages. Gotta take the rough with the smooth.

The Guardian is only to be read for chuckles. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M

However, I have to disagree with your assessment. It's the last decent British newspaper there is next to the Times now that the Daily Mail bought the Independent. 



JRPGfan said:

UK has vaccinated abit more than rest of europe, because it started a few weeks earlier.

The reason why?

UK has over 100k dead to covid19
In london they are a week or so away from hospitals being overwhelmed (ei. cant treat everyone, with covid).
Yesterday alone 1564 people in the UK died to covid.

If the UK counted deaths (not just those tested positive before death, and within 28days of covid), its actual death pr 1million, would be around 1500 or so.
In Denmark our death pr 1million, is around 286.

UK has over 5 times as many dead, pr population, as we do in denmark to covid.
That said, good on you guys for being ahead of the pack when it comes to vaccinations.
Overall I think most countries in the EU will be finished vaccinateing around the same time periode (as the UK).
The limiting factor is how many dosses of vaccines you have comeing in, not who started a week or two earlier.

*source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/number-deaths-involving-covid-19-19620419

Thanks for the update. Your celebratory tone is quite amusing. 



LurkerJ said:
JRPGfan said:

UK has vaccinated abit more than rest of europe, because it started a few weeks earlier.

The reason why?

UK has over 100k dead to covid19
In london they are a week or so away from hospitals being overwhelmed (ei. cant treat everyone, with covid).
Yesterday alone 1564 people in the UK died to covid.

If the UK counted deaths (not just those tested positive before death, and within 28days of covid), its actual death pr 1million, would be around 1500 or so.
In Denmark our death pr 1million, is around 286.

UK has over 5 times as many dead, pr population, as we do in denmark to covid.
That said, good on you guys for being ahead of the pack when it comes to vaccinations.
Overall I think most countries in the EU will be finished vaccinateing around the same time periode (as the UK).
The limiting factor is how many dosses of vaccines you have comeing in, not who started a week or two earlier.

*source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/number-deaths-involving-covid-19-19620419

Thanks for the update. Your celebratory tone is quite amusing. 

So is claiming victory over covid, due to starting vaccinateing a week or two earlier.
As a result of brexit.

The limiting factor will be how many vaccine dosses you have.
Not when you started, a month or two from now, UK probably isnt further ahead than other EU countries in vaccinateing.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 14 January 2021

If the UK was still part of the EU then vaccinations would be well over 1% for the EU by now.

Protip-if you volunteer at a vaccination centre you can get yourself and friends/family vaxed if there's any left at the end of the day (there's always some left).



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Pyro as Bill said:

If the UK was still part of the EU then vaccinations would be well over 1% for the EU by now.

Protip-if you volunteer at a vaccination centre you can get yourself and friends/family vaxed if there's any left at the end of the day (there's always some left).

By end of feburary if the UK goes at its current pace (which it cannot, lacks vaccines to do so), it should hit around 13,1m vaccinations.
That amounts to roughly 19-20% of their population.

HOWEVER....

The UK decided to only give people HALF of the vaccinations they needed.
They only get the first shot, and not the 2nd booster part.

This means UK will have 13m people  (~20% of pop) with around 40-48% immunity.

That isnt by any means perfect.



In denmark, we re giveing both the first shot + the 2nd one.
So while we re only at like 3,5% of our population (right now), by end of feb, we might be like ~10%.


Whats best?
10% thats 95%+ immune to covid?

Or

20% thats 40-48% immune to covid?


Also note, that partial immunity (but not anywhere near fully so) will lead to high risk of mutation of covid, that then becomes more and more resistant to the vaccine.