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Wyrdness said:
EricHiggin said:

If the UK is going to be so hopelessly screwed when they leave the EU, why is the EU trying so desperately to hold onto the UK? Because they care oh so much about it's people and 'lousy' economy or because when the UK leaves and ends up just fine, or possibly better off, it will mean even more trouble for the EU and it's fed up members?

Define desperately because to most people it's more them preferring UK remains because of collective power on the world stage but still being fine if UK left because unlike us they actually have things mapped out for either scenario after all do you hear EU politicians talking about food shortages and stashing medicine like the PM is? If UK leaves it'll only be replaced in relevancy by another country eventually.

How long does it take for the EU to let the UK go? The UK votes to leave in 2016, it's brought to the EU, and yet here we still are trying to figure out a 'deal'. They voted to leave, so just let them leave. Democracy right?



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There is nothing wrong with 'No Deal' aka WTO terms.

It's what I voted for.

If the EU doesn't want an FTA,fine. We can buy French Ag from US/Africa and German manufacturing can be replaced by US/China.

Good luck replacing our high end MF/services. We're the best in the world.

Donald's offering us an FTA that will become the standard of what FTA's should be. Switzerland has already signed off. Oz/NZ are ready for a deal. India wants access to our services market.

Ignore your lying/stupid MP, they're either retarded or corrupt. Lower prices makes the whole country richer and more productive/efficient.

We should have triggeredt Art50 immediately and announced our intention to go WTO and we'd have the whole world begging us for a 'deal' (except the EU who needs to scare everyone else into staying). Tbf, Europe is pretty weak and pathetic and its probably best they hinder their national interests for 'the common good'.......beats war.

Our politicians hate it because we've just destroyed their job prospects and their attempt to make the EU a shit copy of the US. (London=Gold/finance=NY, France=food=california, Germany=manufacturing(tanks)=rust belt, Eastern Europe=cheap labour=mexico). The 3 major ingredients for war are split between the big 3.



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EricHiggin said:
Wyrdness said:

Define desperately because to most people it's more them preferring UK remains because of collective power on the world stage but still being fine if UK left because unlike us they actually have things mapped out for either scenario after all do you hear EU politicians talking about food shortages and stashing medicine like the PM is? If UK leaves it'll only be replaced in relevancy by another country eventually.

How long does it take for the EU to let the UK go? The UK votes to leave in 2016, it's brought to the EU, and yet here we still are trying to figure out a 'deal'. They voted to leave, so just let them leave. Democracy right?

The reason it's taken so long is because of the UK not the EU I don't know what news you've been following the EU have been ready to let us leave any day dating back from March, we have no leverage over the EU but they have a tonne of leverage over us so when Theresa May and co found out that leaving means leaving all the benefits such as trade and all behind unless we accept some terms of their own they did nothing but stall because keeping the benefits means accepting the EU's rules at which point the would be no point in leaving. It's entirely on the UK that this debacle is still going on not the EU.



EricHiggin said:
Wyrdness said:

Define desperately because to most people it's more them preferring UK remains because of collective power on the world stage but still being fine if UK left because unlike us they actually have things mapped out for either scenario after all do you hear EU politicians talking about food shortages and stashing medicine like the PM is? If UK leaves it'll only be replaced in relevancy by another country eventually.

How long does it take for the EU to let the UK go? The UK votes to leave in 2016, it's brought to the EU, and yet here we still are trying to figure out a 'deal'. They voted to leave, so just let them leave. Democracy right?

Our treasonous politicians think they can attack our democracy/way of life without consequence. They should be treated the same way Adolf, Nappy, King Charles, Osama, Saddam and Gaddafi were when they tried it.



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Wyrdness said:

 we have no leverage over the EU but they have a tonne of leverage over us 

You people are deluded.

German cars won't be selling anywhere near as much once they face the same tariffs as the RoW.

France and Spain are basically middle-men for African agriculture.

We pay an extra 10-40% for the privilege compared to world prices while our services sector is completely ignored.

Wtf are you getting your news from?



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phinch1 said:
LurkerJ said:
Leave, no deal.

Any calls for another referendum should be shut down and resisted.

This is what I thought, trade with the EU On WTO Terms, no deal means we keep our 39 billion, if they go for a second referendum they may as well just install a dictator at the same time if the people won't be listened too 

 

Canada has already said in the event of a no deal, we will have something in place, Americana have also said they want to trade

Not true, UK will have to pay them one way or another. It's the liabilities from the last 2 years where UK is in the EU, and those will have to be paid.

It's as if you were in debt at a bank and then cancelling all your accounts there, you will still have to pay back your debt



Pyro as Bill said:
Wyrdness said:

 we have no leverage over the EU but they have a tonne of leverage over us 

You people are deluded.

German cars won't be selling anywhere near as much once they face the same tariffs as the RoW.

France and Spain are basically middle-men for African agriculture.

We pay an extra 10-40% for the privilege compared to world prices while our services sector is completely ignored.

Wtf are you getting your news from?

Says the person living in the Victorian era, German cars will be fine because you really think people here will stop buying them? Here's a news flash for you and any other person buying that tripe the's a whole world that buys German cars, funny you mention African Agriculture because that's where May has been heading to make trade deals I guess we're no different. Where do I get my news from? Well the financial sector where I work and reality.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
phinch1 said:

This is what I thought, trade with the EU On WTO Terms, no deal means we keep our 39 billion, if they go for a second referendum they may as well just install a dictator at the same time if the people won't be listened too 

 

Canada has already said in the event of a no deal, we will have something in place, Americana have also said they want to trade

Not true, UK will have to pay them one way or another. It's the liabilities from the last 2 years where UK is in the EU, and those will have to be paid.

It's as if you were in debt at a bank and then cancelling all your accounts there, you will still have to pay back your debt

Make us.

We aren't in debt to the EU. You owe us a share of those Greek motorways and Eastern European factories we paid to build.

We pay more in so whatever we got, we could have paid for ourselves.

The EU owes us our assets.



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Wyrdness said:
EricHiggin said:

How long does it take for the EU to let the UK go? The UK votes to leave in 2016, it's brought to the EU, and yet here we still are trying to figure out a 'deal'. They voted to leave, so just let them leave. Democracy right?

The reason it's taken so long is because of the UK not the EU I don't know what news you've been following the EU have been ready to let us leave any day dating back from March, we have no leverage over the EU but they have a tonne of leverage over us so when Theresa May and co found out that leaving means leaving all the benefits such as trade and all behind unless we accept some terms of their own they did nothing but stall because keeping the benefits means accepting the EU's rules at which point the would be no point in leaving. It's entirely on the UK that this debacle is still going on not the EU.

The EU isn't in the way? They have no problem with you leaving only to make clear all the repercussions of doing so? Trump is the epitome of take it or leave it and people lose their minds over it, yet when the EU plays that 'game' then that's fine, no problem? Sounds a lot like an abusive relationship to me, and I thought that was a bad thing, or maybe that's just here in NA?

You assume the UK has no one else to deal with? The EU is their only hope? Without the EU, the UK will crumble? Didn't the UK once rule the world and play a huge role in creating the modern West? That didn't happen by pure luck.



Wyrdness said:
Pyro as Bill said:

You people are deluded.

German cars won't be selling anywhere near as much once they face the same tariffs as the RoW.

France and Spain are basically middle-men for African agriculture.

We pay an extra 10-40% for the privilege compared to world prices while our services sector is completely ignored.

Wtf are you getting your news from?

Says the person living in the Victorian era, German cars will be fine because you really think people here will stop buying them? Here's a news flash for you and any other person buying that tripe the's a whole world that buys German cars, funny you mention African Agriculture because that's where May has been heading to make trade deals I guess we're no different. Where do I get my news from? Well the financial sector where I work and reality.

Victorian era? i wish. im guessing that's a shit attempt at painting me as some British Empire 2.0 guy? Nah, I'd end Britain tomorrow if I could. NI is  Scotlands problem and idgaf about Scotland. we'd replace their population in 5 years at current immigration rates and fracking means they can keep their oil. Unfortunately, if $150/barrel couldn't convince them then $50 means we're stuck with them forever.

If you think German cars will sell the same today as they do with a 20% tariff, I'd ask for a refund on your financial education.

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