Brexit

[EricHiggin]

Wyrdness said:

EricHiggin said:

The EU isn't in the way? They have no problem with you leaving only to make clear all the repercussions of doing so? Trump is the epitome of take it or leave it and people lose their minds over it, yet when the EU plays that 'game' then that's fine, no problem? Sounds a lot like an abusive relationship to me, and I thought that was a bad thing, or maybe that's just here in NA?

You assume the UK has no one else to deal with? The EU is their only hope? Without the EU, the UK will crumble? Didn't the UK once rule the world and play a huge role in creating the modern West? That didn't happen by pure luck.

The EU haven't been in the way at any point the whole situation is dragged on by the UK as the people handling the situation have no actual plan going forward in the short or long time, the UK voted to leave the EU meaning the latter can set demands if some benefits are kept after leaving while Trump on the other hands just makes changes to already established deals the's a difference.

Didn't the Mongols rule half the world as well, didn't the Romans and the Greeks have notable empires as well? Christ dude come on when the UK ruled the world people didn't even have electricity then we got whooped by the US, you know why UK has to deal with the EU? Because we're in Europe leave or not we still have to have some sort of dealing with them, dealing with other countries is also no different than dealing with the EU the are going to be stipulations as well.

You missed the point.

Trump see's horrible deals, however they were made, and renegotiates. He uses leverage if necessary as well. It's what smart people with spines do. Yes, they have more leverage because of who they are, but it doesn't mean jack if you don't ever use what leverage you have. Stop doing bad things or we'll give you a bunch of money to do so, lol.

No the UK isn't what it once was, but it's like your saying it's greatness is gone forever and can never be rekindled. One big reason the UK has lost much of it's presence is because it's gone soft, which is another reason why the US is also slowly losing relevance.

In an abusive relationship, is it better to remain or to leave, even if leaving means 'struggling' for a while on your own? Better to stay and continue getting beat down?