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#30 Return to Zork
guessed by The_Liquid_Laser
platform DOS
release year 1993
developer/publisher Infocom/Activision
genre point-and-click adventure
links Wikipedia
last year  #48

As I already mentioned some times here (and will continue to with the upcoming games), I do love point-and-click adventures. Return to Zork is one of them, and it is a great one.

The Zork series actually is one of the oldest adventure series around, and one of the oldest game series at all. The first Zork released in 1980. And the series is known for it's story, dialogue and riddles. Naturally, the old Zork-games were all text-adventures. No graphic at all.

Return to Zork happened a decade later, as graphic adventures were all around. But Return to Zork did some innovations. It had an interesting interface, which adapted on the situation. This allowed for the point-and-click interface of graphical adventures, but brought also some complexity, as the menu could depending on the situation be filled with many options.

Return to Zork also has real actors playing the characters. This was at the time somethign that was done sometimes, but usually it turned out terrible, as integration of the video and the rendered game was bad and the pre-recorded videos lacked interactivity. Return to Zork solved that decently. The videos are often short clips and record possible reactions of the characters and the graphic was adjusted to fit with the rendered surroundings. In the pic above you see the wizard in the globe talking, and that was an actor, but the globe was computer graphics. But the devs were putting work into it, so it actually fits graphically.

Overall this was a great game. Very worthy of my TOP 50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9afP1pRo2RI



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OK, with two games guessed, Liquid_Laser and S.Peelman starting to get in lead with the right guesses. So if anyone wanna keep them competition, should guess here. So some more hints for helping with that.

#29
a) Doesn't it hurt, if you change your form so radically?
b) Use the Wiimote for pointing and targeting.
c) The third entry in the sub-series that is part of a bigger series.
Guessed by outlawauron: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

#28
a) Words of power.
b) Dragons.
Guessed by S.Peelman: Skyrim

#27
a) "Хорошо! Я буду работать на тeбя, проклятый капиталист!"
b) "Reuban... Good prices!"
c) Hire from a bunch of very unusual characters - for a very unusual job.
Guessed by Darashiva: Jagged Alliance

#26
a) Dwarfs and elves on a hexfield.
b) Win with fewer turns to have more gold for the next level.
c) The game gets updates and additional content for over a decade now.

#25
a) Became popular especially in Korea.
b) Terrans against two alien factions.
Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Starcraft/Broodwar

Last edited by Mnementh - on 02 December 2018

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Alright, I've finalized my list. Hope to make the guessing easy so I can post it lol.

50: The entire cast of a storied series arrives again in marvelous tune.
49. NANOMACHINES
48. CLONEOFF (also, corporations are destroying the planet)
47. Game is beautiful and named from an infamous sword.
46. One of the most replayable games where you shoot things with your ship and crew.
45. Strategy, rock, paper, scissors, and a blazing sword.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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Mnementh said:

OK, with two games guessed, Liquid_Laser and S.Peelman starting to get in lead with the right guesses. So if anyone wanna keep them competition, should guess here. So some more hints for helping with that.

#29
a) Doesn't it hurt, if you change your form so radically?
b) Use the Wiimote for pointing and targeting.
c) The third entry in the sub-series that is part of a bigger series.

#28
a) Words of power.
b) Dragons.
Guessed by S.Peelman: Skyrim

#27
a) "Хорошо! Я буду работать на тeбя, проклятый капиталист!"
b) "Reuban... Good prices!"
c) Hire from a bunch of very unusual characters - for a very unusual job.

#26
a) Dwarfs and elves on a hexfield.
b) Win with fewer turns to have more gold for the next level.
c) The game gets updates and additional content for over a decade now.

#25
a) Became popular especially in Korea.
b) Terrans against two alien factions.
Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Starcraft/Broodwar

29. Metroid Prime 3

27. Red Faction



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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outlawauron said:
Alright, I've finalized my list. Hope to make the guessing easy so I can post it lol.

50: The entire cast of a storied series arrives again in marvelous tune.
49. NANOMACHINES
48. CLONEOFF (also, corporations are destroying the planet)
47. Game is beautiful and named from an infamous sword.
46. One of the most replayable games where you shoot things with your ship and crew.
45. Strategy, rock, paper, scissors, and a blazing sword.

#47: Xenoblade Chronicles?

#45: Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade (just called Fire Emblem in the first western releases)?

outlawauron said:
Mnementh said:

OK, with two games guessed, Liquid_Laser and S.Peelman starting to get in lead with the right guesses. So if anyone wanna keep them competition, should guess here. So some more hints for helping with that.

#29
a) Doesn't it hurt, if you change your form so radically?
b) Use the Wiimote for pointing and targeting.
c) The third entry in the sub-series that is part of a bigger series.

#28
a) Words of power.
b) Dragons.
Guessed by S.Peelman: Skyrim

#27
a) "Хорошо! Я буду работать на тeбя, проклятый капиталист!"
b) "Reuban... Good prices!"
c) Hire from a bunch of very unusual characters - for a very unusual job.

#26
a) Dwarfs and elves on a hexfield.
b) Win with fewer turns to have more gold for the next level.
c) The game gets updates and additional content for over a decade now.

#25
a) Became popular especially in Korea.
b) Terrans against two alien factions.
Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Starcraft/Broodwar

29. Metroid Prime 3

27. Red Faction

Metroid Prime is correct, Red Faction though is wrong.

EDIT: And I have to say: it is kinda nice, that everyone guesses in the last time are for half the entries wrong and for half right. That's a good composition.

Last edited by Mnementh - on 02 December 2018

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Mnementh said:

OK, with two games guessed, Liquid_Laser and S.Peelman starting to get in lead with the right guesses. So if anyone wanna keep them competition, should guess here. So some more hints for helping with that.

#29
a) Doesn't it hurt, if you change your form so radically?
b) Use the Wiimote for pointing and targeting.
c) The third entry in the sub-series that is part of a bigger series.
Guessed by outlawauron: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

#28
a) Words of power.
b) Dragons.
Guessed by S.Peelman: Skyrim

#27
a) "Хорошо! Я буду работать на тeбя, проклятый капиталист!"
b) "Reuban... Good prices!"
c) Hire from a bunch of very unusual characters - for a very unusual job.

#26
a) Dwarfs and elves on a hexfield.
b) Win with fewer turns to have more gold for the next level.
c) The game gets updates and additional content for over a decade now.

#25
a) Became popular especially in Korea.
b) Terrans against two alien factions.
Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Starcraft/Broodwar

27: Is that Jagged Alliance? 



Darashiva said:
Mnementh said:

OK, with two games guessed, Liquid_Laser and S.Peelman starting to get in lead with the right guesses. So if anyone wanna keep them competition, should guess here. So some more hints for helping with that.

#29
a) Doesn't it hurt, if you change your form so radically?
b) Use the Wiimote for pointing and targeting.
c) The third entry in the sub-series that is part of a bigger series.
Guessed by outlawauron: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

#28
a) Words of power.
b) Dragons.
Guessed by S.Peelman: Skyrim

#27
a) "Хорошо! Я буду работать на тeбя, проклятый капиталист!"
b) "Reuban... Good prices!"
c) Hire from a bunch of very unusual characters - for a very unusual job.

#26
a) Dwarfs and elves on a hexfield.
b) Win with fewer turns to have more gold for the next level.
c) The game gets updates and additional content for over a decade now.

#25
a) Became popular especially in Korea.
b) Terrans against two alien factions.
Guessed by The_Liquid_Laser: Starcraft/Broodwar

27: Is that Jagged Alliance? 

Yep, that's right. And just like that only one spot is still unguessed.



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#29 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
guessed by outlawauron
platform Wii
release year 2007
developer/publisher Retro Studios/Nintendo
genre first-person action adventure
links Wikipedia
last year  #17

As Wii was my first real console, Metroid Prime 3 was indeed my first contact with the Metroid series. And it was great. The game is not just a shooter, but has exploration and adventure stuff, puzzles and everything. it was great fun and well integrated with the Wii-controls.

Turning into the morph ball looks wrong though. Samus should be crushed by this. This doesn't feel right. On the other hand I look over that issue, because the morph ball allows for addition of so much cool gameplay elements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQLIwauAVNU



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I guess it's time for another set of hints. 

#29: A prequel to a quite unique open world game series. You might end up helping make a music video for a famous artist right after beating one of your former bosses to a pulp.

#28: A gorgeous 2D metroidvania heavily inspired by a certain series famous for its intricate world design and lore.

#27: This game starts a new subseries within this franchise. Takes place after the events of another trilogy in the series, and during two other games which have so far not been released in the west. The main characters are members of a very special class in a military academy.

#26: A collaboration between a game developer and a famous animation studio.

#25: Your only guidance is a mountain on the horizon.

#30
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West
(Change YoY:-2)

This is the game that made me a fan of Ninja Theory as a developer, and much of that was because of how good this game's storytelling and characters were. The gameplay is fun, but it takes a backseat to the developing relationship between Enslaved's two main characters - Monkey and Trip. They are still among my favourite video game characters ever, and much of that comes down to the performances of the actors playing the two characters: Andy Serkis and Lindsey Shaw.

The only real downside for the game is its ending, not because I didn't like it, but because it leaves the story on a cliffhanger that will most likely never be resolved as the game didn't sell enough to satisfy Namco Bandai - the publisher. It's a shame as very few other developers even today treat stories with as much care and attention as Ninja Theory, and Enslaved is still their best written game, at least of the ones I've played so far.



Darashiva said:

I guess it's time for another set of hints. 

#29: A prequel to a quite unique open world game series. You might end up helping make a music video for a famous artist right after beating one of your former bosses to a pulp.

#28: A gorgeous 2D metroidvania heavily inspired by a certain series famous for its intricate world design and lore.

#27: This game starts a new subseries within this franchise. Takes place after the events of another trilogy in the series, and during two other games which have so far not been released in the west. The main characters are members of a very special class in a military academy.

#26: A collaboration between a game developer and a famous animation studio.

#25: Your only guidance is a mountain on the horizon.

#30
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West
(Change YoY:-2)

This is the game that made me a fan of Ninja Theory as a developer, and much of that was because of how good this game's storytelling and characters were. The gameplay is fun, but it takes a backseat to the developing relationship between Enslaved's two main characters - Monkey and Trip. They are still among my favourite video game characters ever, and much of that comes down to the performances of the actors playing the two characters: Andy Serkis and Lindsey Shaw.

The only real downside for the game is its ending, not because I didn't like it, but because it leaves the story on a cliffhanger that will most likely never be resolved as the game didn't sell enough to satisfy Namco Bandai - the publisher. It's a shame as very few other developers even today treat stories with as much care and attention as Ninja Theory, and Enslaved is still their best written game, at least of the ones I've played so far.

26.  Kingdom Hearts?

outlawauron said:
Alright, I've finalized my list. Hope to make the guessing easy so I can post it lol.

50: The entire cast of a storied series arrives again in marvelous tune.
49. NANOMACHINES
48. CLONEOFF (also, corporations are destroying the planet)
47. Game is beautiful and named from an infamous sword.
46. One of the most replayable games where you shoot things with your ship and crew.
45. Strategy, rock, paper, scissors, and a blazing sword.

50.  Theatrhythm Final Fantasy Curtain Call
47.  Xenoblade Chronicles
46. FTL