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VAMatt said:
Kristof81 said:

I understand that, but I think for hugely popular older titles, Nintendo should kick in and fund those projects. New Vegas on the Switch, for example, would make butt loads of money.  

Would it though?  It would probably sell pretty well to people that hang out in gaming forums.  But, does that average Switch owner really care about playing that game?   How about the average Fallout fan... do they want to rebuy a game they finished years ago?  Do they even own a Switch?  Certainly some of them would buy it.  But, how many, really?

Skyrim worked out, it seems.  So, I guess it is possible that an older Fallout game could work on Switch as well.  But, I'd say Skyrim is on a bit of a higher level than Fallout New Vegas, or even Fallout 3, insofar as it is a modern classic. The Fallout games are bigtime, but I don't see any of them as Skyrim level, in terms of popularity and significance in gaming culture.  

Easily, ports are generally cheap, and Fallout is very popular IP, far more popular than Doom and Wolfenstein for instance, games that are actually ported to Switch. All that you could said for Skyrim also. Fallout 3 port would most likly had better sales on Switch than Doom and Wolfenstein 2 have.

Fallout 3 is generaly more popular game and had better sales than New Vegas. It doesnt need to be on Skyrim level, but if Bethesda is so happy with Doom and Wolfenstein 2 sales on Switch that they confimed that next Doom and Wolfenstein games are coming to Switch, they would be also happy with Fallout 3 sales on Switch (that would again most likly sell better than Doom/Wolfenstein2 on Switch).

Point is simple, if they cant port Fallout 4 on Switch in order to have accetible performanse and look, and they think that Fallout 76 is not best suit for Switch, the obvious choice would be to port Fallout 3 on Switch and offer main Fallout game in full handheld mode. In text they even said they having fan request for port Fallout 3 to Switch.



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routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.



duduspace1 said:
routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.

Yeah, Capcom did said that Switch success caught them by surprise and they didnt expected that from Switch.



They're not going to remaster Fallout 3 and/or New Vegas unless they intend to bring it to all platforms. At least, it would completely shock me if they did and it would shock a lot of fans who are waiting for a remaster of those games on PC, Playstation, and Xbox. There is no reason for them to piss off so many long-time supporters and there is no reason to leave so much money on the table by remastering those games for what would likely be its weakest market.

Beside that, the Gamebryo Engine was a mess even back then, it would be a nightmare to bring forward now. That's not a minor undertaking or something you easily hand off to another company. Bethesda would probably have to do that themselves, which would take them away from other tasks. Even if they have one of their new studios working on it with supervision from the core unit, it would still take a long time.



duduspace1 said:
routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.

Precisely why I am amazed. Why on Earth would a Western company, Bethesda no less, have more faith in a Nintendo platform than a Japanese one like the aforementioned?  And it's not just mediocre support, it's abysmal. You snooze you lose, I guess.



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Miyamotoo said:
duduspace1 said:

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.

Yeah, Capcom did said that Switch success caught them by surprise and they didnt expected that from Switch.

Yeah, typical of them (3rd parties on Nintendo platforms). They later blather about sharing market share and their games not selling well enough, though they never like to share the risk. 



routsounmanman said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yeah, Capcom did said that Switch success caught them by surprise and they didnt expected that from Switch.

Yeah, typical of them (3rd parties on Nintendo platforms). They later blather about sharing market share and their games not selling well enough, though they never like to share the risk. 

Yeah, but like someone already stated, you can't really blame them after what happened to Wii U.



Fallout 1 over the top 3rd person HD remake as a Switch exclusive confirmed?



Miyamotoo said:
routsounmanman said:

Yeah, typical of them (3rd parties on Nintendo platforms). They later blather about sharing market share and their games not selling well enough, though they never like to share the risk. 

Yeah, but like someone already stated, you can't really blame them after what happened to Wii U.

Well of course I cannot "blame" them, per se, as they are free to make their own choices regarding what platforms they develop on. I cannot take the "WiiU disaster" argument seriously though, when platforms that have fared worse or have had a smaller install base (PSVR, Dreamcast come to mind) were supported more heavily. Even the Wii, at its inception, was a far riskier product to invest on, yet they (Japanese companies) were on board at the time, even if not at full force.



routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

I think Bandai Namco has been a good supporter. I wouldnt bundle them with Capcom and Konami at all.

I believe there was only 1 game announced from them in 2018 that wasnt also on the Switch (Jump Force) and that game might be a very likely candidate to make the Switch jump at some time.