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KLAMarine said:
Madword said:

They haven't, it was a hoax.

https://www.shacknews.com/article/108272/konami-confirms-pt-bricking-and-removal-is-a-hoax

Admins/OP, should update the title as its misleading :D

Ah, good to hear.

But I think the general direction of the conversation is interesting, i.e digital future and removal of products. I used to buy my music on Apple and fortunately I've moved over to amazon which at least give you MP3 versions of the files you can download and use elsewhere, while stuff I have purchased on apple have been removed and I can not longer get access to (and apple have done this with games also).... so I'm not a big fan of a digital future. I get most of my digital games off Gog as I can at least download the files myself and still use them.



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Madword said:
KLAMarine said:

Ah, good to hear.

But I think the general direction of the conversation is interesting, i.e digital future and removal of products. I used to buy my music on Apple and fortunately I've moved over to amazon which at least give you MP3 versions of the files you can download and use elsewhere, while stuff I have purchased on apple have been removed and I can not longer get access to (and apple have done this with games also).... so I'm not a big fan of a digital future. I get most of my digital games off Gog as I can at least download the files myself and still use them.

Same happened to me. I can't recall my Apple log-in info so there's stuff I can't access anymore. Screw 'em, buying my stuff elsewhere.



vivster said:
xl-klaudkil said:
That digital only gaming will be so awesome!

This has nothing to do with digital. They could just as easily disable the ability to play it if it came on a disc. In fact it would probably be even easier.

The word you're looking for is "DRM".

Except that shit's illegal because, unlike a digital download, a physical copy is by law yours to keep. If they tried taking away my physically-bought games (which is virtually all of them), they'd be in jail. Not the case with digital, and so shady shit like this is fair game. 

And on that note, #FucKonami. First they sell $10 save slots and now this shit, seriously? Are they trying to take the most hated company title away from EA?



I forgot I had this installed lol.



Wyrdness said:
Azuren said:

Wrong. With a disc, I could always put it into a console without an internet connection, and thus no patch to disable the game. While you might be able to avoid the patch with a digital copy, once it has been patched it's done and cannot be undone save for finding someone with an unpatched copy.

 

It is a DRM thing, but all games are nowadays. The difference here is being able to still run a disc as opposed to just being screwed.

New patches for systems can be placed on newly released games with some new releases not even playing with out them, this was common during gen 7, buying physical copies and turning off your connection still doesn't avoid this unless you plan on not buying new games either.

If I bought a game on disc and they released a new disc with the update, they're not coming to my house to swap discs with me. My point still stands that owning the disc with the content I want allows me to access the content regardless of the publishers' wishes.



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Azuren said:
Wyrdness said:

New patches for systems can be placed on newly released games with some new releases not even playing with out them, this was common during gen 7, buying physical copies and turning off your connection still doesn't avoid this unless you plan on not buying new games either.

If I bought a game on disc and they released a new disc with the update, they're not coming to my house to swap discs with me. My point still stands that owning the disc with the content I want allows me to access the content regardless of the publishers' wishes.

What are you on about the update would automatically on all discs so the game you bought would install it PS3, 360, Wii, WiiU etc... all had this as well they don't need to go to your house your point literally is wishful thinking as it would mean not only never connecting online but never buying and playing new games either.



Wyrdness said:
Azuren said:

If I bought a game on disc and they released a new disc with the update, they're not coming to my house to swap discs with me. My point still stands that owning the disc with the content I want allows me to access the content regardless of the publishers' wishes.

What are you on about the update would automatically on all discs so the game you bought would install it PS3, 360, Wii, WiiU etc... all had this as well they don't need to go to your house your point literally is wishful thinking as it would mean not only never connecting online but never buying and playing new games either.

I could ask you the same question. My disc isn't going to be updated, the system data would. If I put that same disc in a system without internet access as I mentioned before, then the publisher can't do anything about it.



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Azuren said:
Wyrdness said:

What are you on about the update would automatically on all discs so the game you bought would install it PS3, 360, Wii, WiiU etc... all had this as well they don't need to go to your house your point literally is wishful thinking as it would mean not only never connecting online but never buying and playing new games either.

I could ask you the same question. My disc isn't going to be updated, the system data would. If I put that same disc in a system without internet access as I mentioned before, then the publisher can't do anything about it.

You said you simply won't connect online to avoid updates problem is updates are put on discs of new games so in order to fully avoid updates you'd have to not buy new games either that's the point the publisher or platform holder doesn't need you to connect online.

The fact that you're forced to use another system solely for one game means they've forced you to fork out to avoid updates.



Wyrdness said:
Azuren said:

I could ask you the same question. My disc isn't going to be updated, the system data would. If I put that same disc in a system without internet access as I mentioned before, then the publisher can't do anything about it.

You said you simply won't connect online to avoid updates problem is updates are put on discs of new games so in order to fully avoid updates you'd have to not buy new games either that's the point the publisher or platform holder doesn't need you to connect online.

The fact that you're forced to use another system solely for one game means they've forced you to fork out to avoid updates.

I said I would play on a system that wasn't connected to the internet, which there is a market for thanks to homebrew needing older firmwares to run. And feel free to think it's a victory for the publisher, but it's one more option to defend myself against the publisher that digital users don't have.



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Azuren said:
Wyrdness said:

You said you simply won't connect online to avoid updates problem is updates are put on discs of new games so in order to fully avoid updates you'd have to not buy new games either that's the point the publisher or platform holder doesn't need you to connect online.

The fact that you're forced to use another system solely for one game means they've forced you to fork out to avoid updates.

I said I would play on a system that wasn't connected to the internet, which there is a market for thanks to homebrew needing older firmwares to run. And feel free to think it's a victory for the publisher, but it's one more option to defend myself against the publisher that digital users don't have.

Well if were getting into homebrew territory than PC digital is safe. At that point you can just torrent any game you want. If they lock me out of my game, that's fine. I can go torrent my whole collection and move on with my life. I purchased the game so it's not like the developer lost anything.