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method114 said:
xl-klaudkil said:
That digital only gaming will be so awesome!

It's only inevitable that this happens eventually. It's already like that on PC and I haven't had any issues at all with it. There are drawbacks to physical games as well especially those with children.

I'm pretty sure you can backup your games on PC, and even patch them if you need to. Try to do that with a console and you will most likely brick the thing, or get your account banned for tinkering with the hardware.



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Darwinianevolution said:
method114 said:

It's only inevitable that this happens eventually. It's already like that on PC and I haven't had any issues at all with it. There are drawbacks to physical games as well especially those with children.

I'm pretty sure you can backup your games on PC, and even patch them if you need to. Try to do that with a console and you will most likely brick the thing, or get your account banned for tinkering with the hardware.

For now that's the way things are they could change once consoles fully embrace digital.



method114 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I'm pretty sure you can backup your games on PC, and even patch them if you need to. Try to do that with a console and you will most likely brick the thing, or get your account banned for tinkering with the hardware.

For now that's the way things are they could change once consoles fully embrace digital.

Yeah, but why kill retail then? What's the point of working towards 100% control over your platform if you then let the user "undermine" you like that?



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Darwinianevolution said:
method114 said:

For now that's the way things are they could change once consoles fully embrace digital.

Yeah, but why kill retail then? What's the point of working towards 100% control over your platform if you then let the user "undermine" you like that?

You kill retail to save money overall and bring all game purchases to your environment giving you completely control over where users can purchase your games. The user wont be undermining consoles if the only way you can perform a backup of a game is by purchasing it first. Once you purchase it your account is granted a digital license for that game and the backup will only work if you have the digital license present.



method114 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Yeah, but why kill retail then? What's the point of working towards 100% control over your platform if you then let the user "undermine" you like that?

You kill retail to save money overall and bring all game purchases to your environment giving you completely control over where users can purchase your games. The user wont be undermining consoles if the only way you can perform a backup of a game is by purchasing it first. Once you purchase it your account is granted a digital license for that game and the backup will only work if you have the digital license present.

Once you purchase it your account is granted a digital license for that game.

The name of this article is "New patch reportedly makes Silent Hill P.T Unplayable". New and official patch that makes your game unplayable. Nevermind the fact that's a demo. If the precedent is set they will allow this things to happen by just adding that condition to the agreeing license noone reads.



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Digital only gaming, what a wonderful era! Now let's move on to other wonderful ideas, like eating Nintendo cartridges or using BluRays as coffee filters, doy!!



Darwinianevolution said:
method114 said:

You kill retail to save money overall and bring all game purchases to your environment giving you completely control over where users can purchase your games. The user wont be undermining consoles if the only way you can perform a backup of a game is by purchasing it first. Once you purchase it your account is granted a digital license for that game and the backup will only work if you have the digital license present.

Once you purchase it your account is granted a digital license for that game.

The name of this article is "New patch reportedly makes Silent Hill P.T Unplayable". New and official patch that makes your game unplayable. Nevermind the fact that's a demo. If the precedent is set they will allow this things to happen by just adding that condition to the agreeing license noone reads.

This is different because at that point you've purchased a product and now Sony has purposely made it unusable. At that point the console makers would be opening themselves up to lawsuits. They can do this with PT because it's free and was never sold by Sony for money.

Honestly if you want to get an idea of what digital only gaming looks like just look at Steam. It's great I've been using it for years no issues ever. Console makers will just follow their lead they wont do things like make games that people purchased unplayable on purpose because not only is there no reason to do that but it will also open them up to lawsuits.



method114 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Once you purchase it your account is granted a digital license for that game.

The name of this article is "New patch reportedly makes Silent Hill P.T Unplayable". New and official patch that makes your game unplayable. Nevermind the fact that's a demo. If the precedent is set they will allow this things to happen by just adding that condition to the agreeing license noone reads.

This is different because at that point you've purchased a product and now Sony has purposely made it unusable. At that point the console makers would be opening themselves up to lawsuits. They can do this with PT because it's free and was never sold by Sony for money.

Well then add that to my list of reasons I don't want a PlayStation system.



method114 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Once you purchase it your account is granted a digital license for that game.

The name of this article is "New patch reportedly makes Silent Hill P.T Unplayable". New and official patch that makes your game unplayable. Nevermind the fact that's a demo. If the precedent is set they will allow this things to happen by just adding that condition to the agreeing license noone reads.

This is different because at that point you've purchased a product and now Sony has purposely made it unusable. At that point the console makers would be opening themselves up to lawsuits. They can do this with PT because it's free and was never sold by Sony for money.

Honestly if you want to get an idea of what digital only gaming looks like just look at Steam. It's great I've been using it for years no issues ever. Console makers will just follow their lead they wont do things like make games that people purchased unplayable on purpose because not only is there no reason to do that but it will also open them up to lawsuits.

I'm pretty sure they can just loophole their way out of that problem. If they really want to, they can just change the definition of "digital purchase" so that they can just say it's an overglorified rental and force you to buy it again after 5-10 years. And by that point, the game might not be on sale at all... Everyone wants entertainment in general to go the way of Netflix, after all, so buying games might not be as good as subscriptions for their games, at which point they can add or substract games as they please, who is going to stop them? You didn't buy the game, it's not yours.

And also, for most of games they wouldn't even need to be that crafty. Just imagine how many mp-only games are going to become obsolete on consoles once the servers are down, without the need of subterfuge.



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Guys its been reported that this was just a Hoax and the demo works perfectly fine.



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