FentonCrackshell said:
OK, you're the 2nd person I've seen post how racist liberals are so I've decided to put my 2 cents in. It's like this. Liberals say racist sh!t sometimes. Most of the time they say it they think they're helping but they're not. From Joe Biden's "Obama is clean and articulate" to the numerous liberals I've had challenge my blackness because I don't always see racism where they see it nor do I think every black person should vote Democrat. But... BUT! How can you say "leftists are the most racist people I've ever seen" when there's Richard Spencer, Neo-Nazis, etc? Nearly every overtly racist organization aligns with the right. Spencer and his ilk sat in a room throwing up the Nazi salute and audible said "Heil Trump!"
Look, there are no leftist groups who fly rebel flags and Swastikas. None of the groups who do these things are "woke". Nope! They all align with the right. These folks will antagonize blacks, Hispanics, and other minority groups and yell "TRUMP!!!" as if to say that's why they're doing what they're doing. And no I don't think being conservative makes one racist. Nor do I think voting for Donald Trump makes one racist. But don't look at some guys on YouTube and think they're the sum of all things. Furthermore, as much as I dislike identity politics (although sometimes justified), it seems some folks will only condemn it when it's not coming from their team.
Here's a conversation I've had with the cousin of my ex-wife. He dislikes Colin Kaepernick because he says Kap engages in identity politics. I love Kap because I'm a Niners fan and he was good for us. But I don't think we're "oppressed" like he seems to think we are. However, I asked my buddy why he can condemn Kap's identity politics but never has a disparaging word for folks who call whites "supreme" or those who spew fear that America is browning. My buddy's answer was "I just ignore those people. They don't deserve my time." Hold on, so you can destroy a guy who thinks blacks are oppressed because you think he's full of crap, yet the other people you believe are full of crap don't get the same treatment? Why's that? It's because, in the end, the other guys play for the same team as you do. I liken it to how good cops don't snitch on bad cops. It's because, in the end, they're both still cops. But that's a story for another day. Anyway, feel free to disagree. I don't go apesh!t when I'm disagreed with because in my 36 years I've come to realize that no 2 people will agree everything. Unless the other person is who you see in the mirror. Peace!
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Excellent post. As someone from Europe, I must say Americans confuse me. You also seem to have very skewed definitions of what a liberal and what a "Leftie" are. Liberalism is not a left-wing ideology. It predates the left-right divide. It is an Enlightenment movement.
And to whomever said that Hitler was a socialist....... wow. Ignorance reeks. Hitler was never a socialist. You need to define socialist, and understand how it differs from other isms, such as statism. Totalitarianism has many similar faces, but just because far left and right resemble each other they are not the same thing (ideologically, at least). Mussolini WAS a (false) socialist, or at least abused the ideas of socialism but he himself was not an ideologue. Hitler borrowed several ideas from Mussolini, but unlike Mussolini, was an ideologue. He wrote his ideas in a book called Mein Kampf, which if you had read you'd know there's nothing in it to support the claim that he was a "socialist".
Just to help, because ignorance sucks, here's an excerpt from Mein Kampf.
...The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.
If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.
Eternal Nature inexorably avenges the infringement of her commands.
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. [p. 60]
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