Satire aside, taking on MS and Sony directly simply is not an option for Nintendo. That would be like vultures trying to compete with lions for the apex predator role on the savanna. They don't have the means to do so, their only viable path to success is to occupy a different niche. When they distinguish themselves from the competition, as with the DS, Wii, and Switch, that's when they thrive.

This idea that Nintendo can be a third juggernaut in the battle of the traditional consoles is a pipe dream that people need to let go.

Huh? Your comment was very well thought-out, but I have to admit i am a bit confused by this statement. Doesn't particularly imply that something is mostly in relation to or applying to one specific set of regions rather than another set? That would mean that the Switch isn't seen as much as a portable in the East as it is in the West, which I think you can agree is fundamentally wrong. If anything, I'd expect the uninformed to say the opposite (not that you are uninformed), although data has pretty much confirmed that the Switch has a healthy relationship with handheld users worldwide.

But Switch is also is aiming different market also in same time, because hybrid nature it aims handheld market also, thats huge difference compared to PS4/XB1.

Thats 70% of Switch owners in US that also have PS4/XB1, not 70% owners of all PS4/XB1 owners in US.

Are you serious!? Switch owners buying Switch on first place to play Nintendo games and exclusives, and those games on first place are reeason why so many PS4/XB1 owners buying Switch, only after that coming multiplatform games.

Plenty of things changed from SNES and PS2 on market, Nintendo changed big time after GameCube.

You do realise that only proves my point!? Fact is that Switch dont effect on PS4/XB1 sales, and PS4/XB1 sales dont effect on Switch sales proves that Switch alternative to PS4/XB1 and that can coexist on market despite point that they are also selling great, fact that 70% Switch owners in US also has PS4/XB1 also proves that.

"What i've always said is that 3rd party games are the reason consoles succeed… in a normal situation". But thats a point, Nintendo has much higher chances by releasing console that's not normal or typical, also last few generations 3rd party games are not reason for Nintendo succes, but you fail to see that. Switch is success, period, it only remains how big success will be, it has chances passing Wii numbers and becoming second best selling Nintendo hardware after DS.

But that a point, Switch will keep selling despite PS5/XB2 because even then it will be different like its different currently compared to PS4/XB1 and because of that plenty of PS4/XB1 owners also buying Switch.

Like I wrote you in other thread and like others point in this thread, your points or logic dont make sense at all, so I again dont see point continue with this and I will not reply to you any more.

Why shouldn't I be concerned?
Is Switch sold as portable, perceived as such and getting games as if it is a portable? No. Even if it has the monopoly of that market it doesn't necessarily mean it will sell and have a shelf life as other portables.
Does Nintendo have another device to fall back to when Switch faces real competition from PS5 ad XB2? No.

They would be better off for the future - whatever that future entails - if it had the type of 3rd party games that make Sony and MS consoles, primary consoles.

Did you see PS4 and Sony take a blow because of Switch? I didn't.
Had Switch affected sales from pS4 and XB1 and that would be a real possibility.

I get the 200$ range. I highly doubt the 150$ anytime soon.
But they will be direct competition! MS and Sony users are buying Switch in droves because there's no real alternative for them to decide. Not to forget that only less than a third of Switch users didn't have a PS4 or XB1. And this is after coming out with a new concept, a return to form for Mario and Zelda, MK8 and Splatoon in just 10 months.

There's just no way, given the above, that PS5 and XB2 won't pose a serious threat to Switch and it's not price that will soften the blow.
Sony managed to sell 80+ million between a 300 and 400 price tag.

Assuming momentum is maintained well, wouldn't the Switch be nearing 65 million by late 2020( My estimate of when the nest consoles will drop)? I think the Switch is being perceived  as a handheld, as it is more in line with Nintendo's handheld. I also think it is getting the games as if it was a portable( I would never imagine something like Octopath on a traditional console). 

Given the current state, no, i don't think Nintendo can take Sony and MS head-on.

But they have the means to actually try, they just decided they don't want to.
And i'm not speaking about coming out with a 400$ console full of bells and whistles. I'm talking about the most important aspect of change: games!

Apart from the Wii franchises, how many franchises has Nintendo made that directly appeal to the Sony and MS consumer? Splatoon? Where's the Uncharteds, Halos, Destiny's, etc, etc.?
If Nintendo can't present those games as exclusives + Nintendo franchises it will be really hard for them actually change anything structurally.

To be honest, there's two moves that have gone in the way of said change: marketing to young aduls and above and making serious efforts to bring online titles like Fortnite, Arena of Valor, etc.
To be honest, again, i don't think they have been given enough credit for those changes, specially the latter.

To me, Nintendo needs to take some more serious steps for anything to change in the long term. It's not really a pipedream, it's a work in progress.

I never denied that difference (portability). But what i don't do is look at that and say "that's all there is to it" or "it will have the same appeal forever".

"Thats 70% of Switch owners in US that also have PS4/XB1, not 70% owners of all PS4/XB1 owners in US."
I really don't understand what you are trying to go with this…
The data is clear: 70% of Switch users in the US own a PS4/XB1.

"Are you serious!? Switch owners buying Switch on first place to play Nintendo games and exclusives, and those games on first place are reeason why so many PS4/XB1 owners buying Switch, only after that coming multiplatform games."
No wonder multiplats come second: first, there aren't that many that are actually relevant; second, they can play them on their systems.

"Fact is that Switch dont effect on PS4/XB1 sales, and PS4/XB1 sales dont effect on Switch sales proves that Switch alternative to PS4/XB1 and that can coexist on market despite point that they are also selling great, fact that 70% Switch owners in US also has PS4/XB1 also proves that."

Why should sales of XB1 and PS4 affect Switch? Is Switch seen as a primary device? No.

And you keep ignoring that the Switch exclusives and concept aren't the only reasons Switch is selling well.
There's no competition to Switch; 
By marketing Switch to the Xb and PS consumer, you make Switch an attractive product. Problem is, they failed to have those same consumers choose Switch instead of PS4 or XB1. In fact, only 30% did that.
When Switch released there were already tens and tens of millions users ready for something new.

How you keep ignoring this or treating it as irrelevant is beyond me. 

"Nintendo has much higher chances by releasing console that's not normal or typical, also last few generations 3rd party games are not reason for Nintendo succes, but you fail to see that."
WII was a success on a different market. Not happening again (Wii U pretty much showed that early on);
Switch had a new, unrepeatable approach, Splatoon 2, MK8, Mario and Zelda games that were hailed as return their glory days. And despite all that it's like, to PS4 and XB1 sales, it didn't even exist.

Read the context and you'll see that SO FAR, there's not a big change for Nintendo. All Nintendo wins have been a moment in time.
On the other hand, Sony has the same strategy since 95 and they are still winning.
Sony does bad one time and sells 80+ million consoles; Nintendo does bad (again) and does 15 million consoles.
See the difference?

For Sony is just another day at the office. The norm for Nintendo is not Switch, nor Wii.

Although there are ways to succeed without 3rd parties, it is yet to be shown that that same success can be sustained for more than one generation.

I looked at the 2019 release calendar for Switch and all i have seen were home console games - at least the ones that mattered.
The only meaningful handheld titles were Pokémon and Yokai watch.

I also look at the best sellers (top 30) for Switch and i mainly see home console type games.
If it's getting support (games that only existed or came from handhelds) from japanese developers it's not really making  big difference. But home console games are.

PS4 and XB1 are competition, but nowhere near the competition presented by new platforms.
When you release your console to a market where more than 80 million systems, combined, have been sold, havin spent more than 3 years on the market and you are directly aiming at those consumers, it's hard not to do well - also considering how Nintendo entered the market.

That's why i said the real test will come when Sony and MS consumers will have to choose between Switch and the new consoles.

No i don't believe Switch will become unnatractive all of a sudden. But i can't overlook the fact that Switch isn't really stealing consumers from the competition or hurting their sales.

"Nintendo's worst selling consoles are the ones that pursued the games you argue they should pursue."
Aren't you ignonring why they failed?
It wasn't just GC that failed. XB failed aswell.

A year after the mighty PS2 came out, with the best 3rd party games and Nintendo presents a purple console that is being sold on the games that aren't a priority to the mass market. Couple that with Nintendo's poor image on the market for late teens and adults and the fact that there attempt of reaching that audience was a copy of Sony's strategy without the actual games.
And you are surprised that Nintendo failed?

Wii U was already dead on arrival. The lack of support and appeal was already evident.
Remember that first commercial? They said they were going after the core gamers, but their message and strategy went the other way.

When you ask for sales data, to what are you referring, exactly?

Meaningful handheld titles for 2019 also include Animal crossing, Fire Emblem, and Luigi Mansion!

I think its a success so far. Hopefully it will keep on being a success.

I have no idea how to respond to this, it's literally just a bunch of nonsense that in no way supports what you are saying.