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d21lewis on 19 September 2018
nemo37 said:
d21lewis said:

This post scared the hell out of me.

I have about 40 games on my Switch and the only one that's physical is Breath of the Wild. I just assumed it was like every other console where I could log in and my games would be there.

In the past (like on DSi and 3DS), it was somewhat difficult to get Nintendo to transfer your digital stuff if someone stole your system. Typically they would need a police report but they would then do the transfer.

On the Switch though the process seems to be a lot easier. You can just deactivate either from the console itself through the eShop or if your device was stolen or is completely broken you can do it by logging onto your Nintendo Account on a PC or mobile device with a browser and deactivating from there (although you can only do this once per year on a browser, it seems to be only for when your system is broken or stolen). Once you deactivate your Switch, you can just login to another Switch and you will have access to all of your purchases.

Source:

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22434

Also, as of the launch of the online service yesterday, you can have a primary Switch system with all of your digital purchases as well as multiple secondary ones that can also access your digital purchases. The only limitation is that the secondary systems need to be online at all times (though the primary one does not need to be) and you cannot play a digital game on the  secondary one if Nintendo detects the game is in use 

That's pretty cool and pretty much on par with the PS4 and Xbox One. The one it difference being that on Xbox you can play the same game at the same time as the primary. Do I need a paid online account to enable this? I only have one Switch but I might grab a second one for my kid when Animal Crossing releases.



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o_O.Q on 19 September 2018

sell it and get a pc with a good graphics card and monitor

you will never ever go back to console



nemo37 on 19 September 2018
d21lewis said:
nemo37 said:

In the past (like on DSi and 3DS), it was somewhat difficult to get Nintendo to transfer your digital stuff if someone stole your system. Typically they would need a police report but they would then do the transfer.

On the Switch though the process seems to be a lot easier. You can just deactivate either from the console itself through the eShop or if your device was stolen or is completely broken you can do it by logging onto your Nintendo Account on a PC or mobile device with a browser and deactivating from there (although you can only do this once per year on a browser, it seems to be only for when your system is broken or stolen). Once you deactivate your Switch, you can just login to another Switch and you will have access to all of your purchases.

Source:

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22434

Also, as of the launch of the online service yesterday, you can have a primary Switch system with all of your digital purchases as well as multiple secondary ones that can also access your digital purchases. The only limitation is that the secondary systems need to be online at all times (though the primary one does not need to be) and you cannot play a digital game on the  secondary one if Nintendo detects the game is in use 

That's pretty cool and pretty much on par with the PS4 and Xbox One. The one it difference being that on Xbox you can play the same game at the same time as the primary. Do I need a paid online account to enable this? I only have one Switch but I might grab a second one for my kid when Animal Crossing releases.

The official details does not mention needing the paid online service to do this. You can have a look at the details in this link:

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22448

I guess two things you should be aware of though is that if you do get the paid subscription your kid will also get it if you put your account on his Switch, which means that he/she will be able to access the online services as well as your cloud save files (though of course you can disable the cloud saving on his/her console through the settings app).



nemo37 on 19 September 2018
o_O.Q said:
sell it and get a pc with a good graphics card and monitor

you will never ever go back to console

I have a good PC (along with the other stationary consoles), but I play on portables so the Switch will still be my #1 system (much like the Vita/3DS setup I had before it).



d21lewis on 19 September 2018
nemo37 said:
d21lewis said:

That's pretty cool and pretty much on par with the PS4 and Xbox One. The one it difference being that on Xbox you can play the same game at the same time as the primary. Do I need a paid online account to enable this? I only have one Switch but I might grab a second one for my kid when Animal Crossing releases.

The official details does not mention needing the paid online service to do this. You can have a look at the details in this link:

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22448

I guess two things you should be aware of though is that if you do get the paid subscription your kid will also get it if you put your account on his Switch, which means that he/she will be able to access the online services as well as your cloud save files (though of course you can disable the cloud saving on his/her console through the settings app).

I'll check the link. Thank you so much!



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nemo37 on 19 September 2018
d21lewis said:
nemo37 said:

The official details does not mention needing the paid online service to do this. You can have a look at the details in this link:

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22448

I guess two things you should be aware of though is that if you do get the paid subscription your kid will also get it if you put your account on his Switch, which means that he/she will be able to access the online services as well as your cloud save files (though of course you can disable the cloud saving on his/her console through the settings app).

I'll check the link. Thank you so much!

No problem :)



KManX89 on 19 September 2018

He's not wrong, guys, Nintendo is the most anti-consumer platform holder of the 3. Yeah, they make great games, but they're literally the only company of the 3 who's in violation of any laws, violation of consumer protection laws by not letting customers cancel digital pre-orders and fair use laws by copyright striking videos containing their content that clearly fall under fair use. They've been known to do this hand over fist, too, they're even worse about abusing YouTube copyright strikes than Konami FFS, who regularly flag any videos criticizing them and THEIR shitty antics. There's also the issues with overpricing accessories, locking save backups on the Switch behind a paywall when Sony and MS both offer it for free and charging for a barebones online service without any app features, such as Netflix, Hulu, etc. They also had the recent kerfuffle of shutting down ROM sites for games that can't be played in any legal capacity, anymore (except second-hand via eBay, which they can't make money off of that, either), another petty move. Oh, and locking DLC behind toys. TOYS.



AngryLittleAlchemist on 19 September 2018

I just want to say, you've all failed me.



EricHiggin on 20 September 2018
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I just want to say, you've all failed me.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

flashfire926 on 20 September 2018
KManX89 said:
He's not wrong, guys, Nintendo is the most anti-consumer platform holder of the 3. Yeah, they make great games, but they're literally the only company of the 3 who's in violation of any laws, violation of consumer protection laws by not letting customers cancel digital pre-orders and fair use laws by copyright striking videos containing their content that clearly fall under fair use. They've been known to do this hand over fist, too, they're even worse about abusing YouTube copyright strikes than Konami FFS, who regularly flag any videos criticizing them and THEIR shitty antics. There's also the issues with overpricing accessories, locking save backups on the Switch behind a paywall when Sony and MS both offer it for free and charging for a barebones online service without any app features, such as Netflix, Hulu, etc. They also had the recent kerfuffle of shutting down ROM sites for games that can't be played in any legal capacity, anymore (except second-hand via eBay, which they can't make money off of that, either), another petty move. Oh, and locking DLC behind toys. TOYS.

Correction there, Sony actually has cloud saves behind the paywall too. Only MS has them for free.

(Don't involve me in this debate though, I abstain from choosing sides).



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.