Forums - Sales Discussion - Spider-Man Crushing God Of War In Some Regions

Otter on 16 September 2018

Ah, people are really undermining the games achievements by casually throwing out "Spiderman is really popular"... Ok, so we would have bet on this being the top selling exclusive of 2018 when it was first revealed last year? And yeah, we know Spiderman is popular (never managed to outgross Batman at the box-office though) but Comic Book games have never been generation top sellers, so if this game manages to enter that category that will be really impressive.

As much as I love original stories, I'd love to see more top tier developers tackle books, films & TV shows which could be turned into amazing gaming titles with the right budget and talent (Harry Potter comes to mind). 



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contestgamer on 16 September 2018

GoW is a fairly small, niche brand, similar to Zelda in size, so this isn't surprising. SM is a giant global brand.



DonFerrari on 16 September 2018
Replicant said:
DonFerrari said:
I thought we had more data than Japan and UK already... well it is a good start after all.

We now have data from Germany and Switzerland as well. Unfortunately, the German chart isn't multiplat but as one of the countries that prefers PlayStation the most, the multiplat chart is probably not that different. If any German-speaking users read this comment, it'd be great if they'd look for a multiplat chart covering Germany.

Germany:
1. Spider-Man (PS4, Standard Edition)
2. Dragon Quest XI (PS4)
3. Spider-Man (PS4, Special Edition)
4. F1 2018 (PS4)
5. NBA 2K19 (PS4)

Switzerland:
1. Spider-Man (PS4)
2. Dragon Quest XI (PS4)
3. NBA 2K19 (PS4)
4. Pro Evolution Soccer 19 (PS4)
5. F1 2018 (PS4)
6. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch)
7. Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
8. Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch)
10. Minecraft (Switch)


Spider-Man still performs exceptionally on Amazon.
US: 3 (behind 2 PSN Cards)
Canada: 1
Japan: 1
India: 1
UK: 1
France: 1
Spain: 1
Italy: 3 (behind 2 PS4 versions of FIFA)
Germany: 10 (blame FIFA)

On position lists I have little doubt it will be N1 for the week in almost all. But I'm talking more about how it done compared to GoW so we can best guess FW.



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Replicant on 17 September 2018

More data.

Italy (yes, that's the multiplat chart):
1. Spider-Man (PS4)
2. Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 (PS4)
3. F1 2018 (PS4)
4. Dragon Quest XI (PS4)
5. Gran Turismo Sport (PS4)
6. Fifa 18 (PS4)
7. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (PS4)
8. The Last of Us Remastered (PS4)
9. Detroit: Became Human (PS4)
10. Minecraft: Playstation 4 Edition (PS4)

UK (2nd week):
1. Spider-Man
2. Shadow of the Tomb Raider
3. NBA 2K19
4. Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
6. Grand Theft Auto V
7. F1 2018
8. The Elder Scrolls Online
9. Lego The Incredibles
10. Super Mario Odyssey

Japan (2nd week):
1. Spider-Man (PS4)
2. Shadow of the Tomb Raider (PS4)
3. Conan Outcasts (PS4)
4. MineCraft (Switch)
5. NBA2K19 (PS4)
6. Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 (PS4)
7. Pokémon Ultramoon (3DS)
8. Pokémon Ultrasun (3DS)
9. Labo Toy-Con 03: Vehicle Kit (Switch)
10 Undertale (Switch)

 

DonFerrari said:
Replicant said:

We now have data from Germany and Switzerland as well. Unfortunately, the German chart isn't multiplat but as one of the countries that prefers PlayStation the most, the multiplat chart is probably not that different. If any German-speaking users read this comment, it'd be great if they'd look for a multiplat chart covering Germany.

Germany:
1. Spider-Man (PS4, Standard Edition)
2. Dragon Quest XI (PS4)
3. Spider-Man (PS4, Special Edition)
4. F1 2018 (PS4)
5. NBA 2K19 (PS4)

Switzerland:
1. Spider-Man (PS4)
2. Dragon Quest XI (PS4)
3. NBA 2K19 (PS4)
4. Pro Evolution Soccer 19 (PS4)
5. F1 2018 (PS4)
6. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch)
7. Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
8. Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch)
10. Minecraft (Switch)


Spider-Man still performs exceptionally on Amazon.
US: 3 (behind 2 PSN Cards)
Canada: 1
Japan: 1
India: 1
UK: 1
France: 1
Spain: 1
Italy: 3 (behind 2 PS4 versions of FIFA)
Germany: 10 (blame FIFA)

On position lists I have little doubt it will be N1 for the week in almost all. But I'm talking more about how it done compared to GoW so we can best guess FW.

Can't wait to see Spider-Man's FW but we probably won't know more about numbers or performance compared to GOW before official statements from Sony or NPD are released. At least, we know that Spider-Man is already close to surpass GOW lifetime in the UK:

"Spider-Man retains its No.1 spot for a second week. Impressively, the Sony game's week two sales are down just 42% compared to its launch week, and it's already on the brink of eclipsing the (lifetime) sales of the last big PS4 exclusive: God of War."



dexterlablab1 on 17 September 2018
Qwark said:
Pretty impressive but God of War also has great legs, it can still be found in or near the top 10 worldwide. For everyone claiming this is about market appeal. Batman is more popular than Spiderman yet the Arkham games never did these kind of numbers. Sony marketed the shit out of this and it paid off,because the game looks great and plays great. Sure it helped that Spidey is the protagonist. Although I doubt it will outsell GOW in the long run.

 

 

Actually, that's not true. Batman is considered more iconic than Spider-man. But he's not more popular. Superman is considered most iconic, with Batman being the second. And Spider-man being the third.

 

As for more popular, for every one Batman item that gets sold, almost 10 Spider-Man products get sold. So Spider-man is the more popular character. To go even further, Spider-man is the most profitable superhero on the planet.

 

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/spider-man-is-worlds-most-profitable-superhero-and-its-not-even-close-a111109



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Vizigoth04 on 17 September 2018

Sony competing amongst itself? Well as long as other PlayStation developers are saying "Hold my beer, watch this" then I'm okay with it.



pastro243 on 17 September 2018

Like someone said, Spiderman being a bigger IP in general doesn't directly relate to better sales in videogame media. Look at anime games sales, even the biggest franchises don't get as big as top sellers in the media, or Harry Potter, that don't get great sales at all.

OT, Japan won't tell that much about impact of a ps4 game unless it's a Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest or MH, but UK sales could be a similar rate as in the US, so maybe it beat GOW there too.



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DonFerrari on 17 September 2018
Replicant said:

More data.

Italy (yes, that's the multiplat chart):
1. Spider-Man (PS4)
2. Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 (PS4)
3. F1 2018 (PS4)
4. Dragon Quest XI (PS4)
5. Gran Turismo Sport (PS4)
6. Fifa 18 (PS4)
7. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (PS4)
8. The Last of Us Remastered (PS4)
9. Detroit: Became Human (PS4)
10. Minecraft: Playstation 4 Edition (PS4)

UK (2nd week):
1. Spider-Man
2. Shadow of the Tomb Raider
3. NBA 2K19
4. Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
6. Grand Theft Auto V
7. F1 2018
8. The Elder Scrolls Online
9. Lego The Incredibles
10. Super Mario Odyssey

Japan (2nd week):
1. Spider-Man (PS4)
2. Shadow of the Tomb Raider (PS4)
3. Conan Outcasts (PS4)
4. MineCraft (Switch)
5. NBA2K19 (PS4)
6. Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 (PS4)
7. Pokémon Ultramoon (3DS)
8. Pokémon Ultrasun (3DS)
9. Labo Toy-Con 03: Vehicle Kit (Switch)
10 Undertale (Switch)

 

DonFerrari said:

On position lists I have little doubt it will be N1 for the week in almost all. But I'm talking more about how it done compared to GoW so we can best guess FW.

Can't wait to see Spider-Man's FW but we probably won't know more about numbers or performance compared to GOW before official statements from Sony or NPD are released. At least, we know that Spider-Man is already close to surpass GOW lifetime in the UK:

"Spider-Man retains its No.1 spot for a second week. Impressively, the Sony game's week two sales are down just 42% compared to its launch week, and it's already on the brink of eclipsing the (lifetime) sales of the last big PS4 exclusive: God of War."

Yes this second week of Spiderman on Japan and UK is very good indeed. To outsell lifetime of GoW with 2 weeks of sale is crazy stuff.

3-5M FW isn't totally impossible anymore.



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Qwark on 17 September 2018
dexterlablab1 said:
Qwark said:
Pretty impressive but God of War also has great legs, it can still be found in or near the top 10 worldwide. For everyone claiming this is about market appeal. Batman is more popular than Spiderman yet the Arkham games never did these kind of numbers. Sony marketed the shit out of this and it paid off,because the game looks great and plays great. Sure it helped that Spidey is the protagonist. Although I doubt it will outsell GOW in the long run.

 

 

Actually, that's not true. Batman is considered more iconic than Spider-man. But he's not more popular. Superman is considered most iconic, with Batman being the second. And Spider-man being the third.

 

As for more popular, for every one Batman item that gets sold, almost 10 Spider-Man products get sold. So Spider-man is the more popular character. To go even further, Spider-man is the most profitable superhero on the planet.

 

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/spider-man-is-worlds-most-profitable-superhero-and-its-not-even-close-a111109

Damn spiderman is profitable I wonder why though. Nevertheless this is probably already the best selling Spider-Man game to date. 



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Replicant on 19 September 2018

We got data from France now as well.

France (yes, that's the multiplat chart):
1. Spider-Man (PS4, Standard Edition)
2. Spider-Man (PS4, Special Edition)
3. Dragon Quest XI (PS4)
4. NBA 2K19 (PS4)
5. Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 (PS4)