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jason1637 said:
Mar1217 said:

Show me your sources.

https://gamingbolt.com/call-of-duty-black-ops-4-preorders-already-outpacing-call-of-duty-ww2-preorders

Duuude that article is from may, we living in August now, check out vgchartz pre-orders numbers. Black ops 4 is down massively, YES!



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Battlefield games were always the more realistic out of the shooters. This battlefield has british troops with katanas and women with missing limbs/replaced by cybernetic limb fighting in the game.. When fans raised concerns about this stuff they were called uneducated and mischaracterized as not wanting any women in games. The dev said that if we didn't like this stuff then don't buy the game. It's not surprising that it's not getting no where near the preorders they want. Go woke, go broke.



They really messed up with this games initial reveal and then didn't they tell the fans straight out to ''dont like it dont buy it''?



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PwerlvlAmy said:
They really messed up with this games initial reveal and then didn't they tell the fans straight out to ''dont like it dont buy it''?

Yes, and that guy actually announced he was departing EA the day before the report about disappointing pre-orders came out.



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While the "women" controversy definitely had some effect on pre-orders, it has more to do with the culmination of other things. First, people lost their confidence in EA, especially after last year's Battlefront fisco. Unless we have it on paper, at the moment, no one really knows what kind of paid BS they're gonna push this year. Second, we haven't seen BFV open beta yet. Third, we already had WW2 FPS game last year. Fourth, when the producer of the game tells you that if you don't like the game, don't buy it, you will have quite a lot of customers who will do just that, purely because of this stupid comment.
If EA guarantees no pay to win in this installment, the open beta turns out to be very good AND the game offers something fundamentally different from last CoD, we will see a different picture in terms of figures. At the moment people take "wait and see" approach, including me.

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the_dark_lewd said:
They could have easily included women without annoying anyone.

It's the fact that they focused so heavily on it that annoyed people. In a war where 99.9% of the war deaths were male, putting a female on the cover for your game, is just a deliberate political statement. That was a deliberate choice by them, but it's not necessary at all.

For comparison, see Assassin's Creed Odyssey, which has included a female option for the first time and has received almost no pushback for it. Because they did it well and didn't try and make a kind of social statement with it.

Exactly. What annoyed people generally is that they wanted a authentic depiction of WW2. They could have easily added in French resistance for example and the voices of complaint would have just been the idiots.... in other words very low.

It didnt help that there were a lot of people who drowned out this argument using the sexist card, which was a shame. People just want games like this to be authentic and as realistic as possible.



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CosmicSex said:
I don't find anything wrong with women as this is just a game and I sure as hell wasn't hoping for an accurate depiction of WWII from this game but it simply doesn't look that good or new to me. What if you just aren't interested. It's also hilarious that they doubled down on the boots on the ground thing and it turns out that no one really cared lol.

I'm in the same boat. I'm in no way offended by the content. I just don't think the game looks interesting and fun to play.

 

Kerotan said:
Deserves them right. They were idiots for doing 2 old war games in a row. Should have been Vietnam

Yeah. I can't believe they didn't make Battlefield Vietnam this year and then Battlefield 2 (WW2) in a couple of years.

I guess this is just EA being EA (highly investor-driven and out of touch).

 

Kristof81 said:
While the "women" contoresey definitely had some effect on pre-orders, it has more to do with the culmination of other things. First, people lost their confidence in EA, especially after last year's Battlefront fisco. Unless we have it on paper, at the moment, no one really knows what kind of paid BS they're gonna push this year. Second, we haven't seen BFV open beta yet. Third, we already had WW2 FPS game last year. Fourth, when the producer of the game tells you that if you don't like the game, don't buy it, you will have quite a lot of customers who will do just that, purely because of this stupid comment.
If EA guarantees no pay to win in this installment, the open beta turns out to be very good AND the game offers something fundamentally different from last CoD, we will see a different picture in terms of figures. At the moment people take "wait and see" approach, including me.

Of course some Battlefield fans seeking realism are turned off by the Fortnite-esque style, gameplay and story but I think you're right that EA's bad reputation coupled with WW-game saturation and BFV's limited public showings are more to blame for the low amount of preorders.



jason1637 said:
Wow this game is a disaster. Content missing at launch, women being included, lack of marketing, and launching a week after Black Ops 4 and a week before Red Dead Redemption 2.

Cause and effect. The launch window and content will have an impact. The "women in the game" probably has nothing to do with the sales.



WolfpackN64 said:
jason1637 said:
Wow this game is a disaster. Content missing at launch, women being included, lack of marketing, and launching a week after Black Ops 4 and a week before Red Dead Redemption 2.

Cause and effect. The launch window and content will have an impact. The "women in the game" probably has nothing to do with the sales.

RDR2 is going to make it very difficult for any game to make money in Oct...

Add into that the fact that people are a bit bored of the whole microtransactions thing I'm not surprised. I hope COD falls to a similar fate to be fair, what with no single player... but they'll probably still make a bucket load.



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