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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 14 July 2018

curl-6 said:
JRPGfan said:

Theres been shortages of PS4 stock though in the US... atleast of the PS4pro.
If you follow the NPD prediction tool thread, you ll see in July the Switch leads, and PS4 & XB1 are more or less neck and neck.

I think the Switch wins July NPD.

I was talking global sales, as in with VGC's next set of numbers of the week ending 21st of July, I expect PS4 to be back on top. As far as NPD goes, I'll believe it when I see it.

Well, what the PS4 wins in Europe, it's losing in Japan again. US are pretty much determining right now who wins the week.



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DonFerrari said:
0D0 said:

Mbolibombo already replied it. It's not only lineup vs lineup. All things considered, NSW has good chances in July/Aug. Besides PS4 is not getting younger.

I see no issue with thinking switch will win both months. But lineup is what you pointed and for me it didn't see likely.

I said PS4 could be weaker due to PS4's lineup, not that NSW would be stronger due to NSW's lineup.

PS4 being weaker by its lineup gives chance to NSW by whatever strength NSW may have during summer.



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When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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After a long, long time NS outsells PS4 again. I expected it some weeks in Autumn, and later in Xmas season, but not in July.



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Intrinsic said:
finally something different. Now if only NS ca do this for like 8 more weeks then sony will hae to cnsider things like a price drop.

I dont think Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo care enough about rankings to do price cuts simply because the other is selling slightly more.



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0D0 said:
DonFerrari said:

I see no issue with thinking switch will win both months. But lineup is what you pointed and for me it didn't see likely.

I said PS4 could be weaker due to PS4's lineup, not that NSW would be stronger due to NSW's lineup.

PS4 being weaker by its lineup gives chance to NSW by whatever strength NSW may have during summer.

I understood it as PS4 lineup being weaker than NSW for these months.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:
finally something different. Now if only NS ca do this for like 8 more weeks then sony will hae to cnsider things like a price drop.

I dont think Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo care enough about rankings to do price cuts simply because the other is selling slightly more.

Agree. Not to mention that rushing a price cut intead of doing it when originally planned considering a longer term and wider scope, is always seen as a sign of weakness. NS is strong and getting stronger, but Sony needs to launch PS5 not earlier than in 2020 if it wants it to be not just powerful and cheap, but also with the possibility to include a hybrid version if the gamers and devs, thanks to Ninty showing the way, will make clear they absolutely want it (while GPU cores of a hybrid can scale down, at least when undocked, the CPU must provide almost the same computing power, only some optional services can be disabled when undocked, so tech will need to advance enough to produce mobile CPU cores that deliver a large enough performance leap from PS4 even on the home version, and this, if even possible, wouldn't be cheap earlier than 2020), so Sony needs to play the price cut card with an at least two years plan in mind. Also, Sony doesn't want a price war with Ninty, for at least three reasons, first, it would hurt profits, second, competing in three makes Microsoft less dangerous and third, Ninty, despite blunders like Wii U, keeps on showing it can still show the way to go in console gaming, and maybe this time more than ever, as finding a way portables can survive mobile attack is a thing that many didn't consider possible, until Ninty showed it.



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A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
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Alby_da_Wolf said:
zorg1000 said:

I dont think Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo care enough about rankings to do price cuts simply because the other is selling slightly more.

Agree. Not to mention that rushing a price cut intead of doing it when originally planned considering a longer term and wider scope, is always seen as a sign of weakness. NS is strong and getting stronger, but Sony needs to launch PS5 not earlier than in 2020 if it wants it to be not just powerful and cheap, but also with the possibility to include a hybrid version if the gamers and devs, thanks to Ninty showing the way, will make clear they absolutely want it (while GPU cores of a hybrid can scale down, at least when undocked, the CPU must provide almost the same computing power, only some optional services can be disabled when undocked, so tech will need to advance enough to produce mobile CPU cores that deliver a large enough performance leap from PS4 even on the home version, and this, if even possible, wouldn't be cheap earlier than 2020), so Sony needs to play the price cut card with an at least two years plan in mind. Also, Sony doesn't want a price war with Ninty, for at least three reasons, first, it would hurt profits, second, competing in three makes Microsoft less dangerous and third, Ninty, despite blunders like Wii U, keeps on showing it can still show the way to go in console gaming, and maybe this time more than ever, as finding a way portables can survive mobile attack is a thing that many didn't consider possible, until Ninty showed it.

Yep you are right, Sony have to look at their own sales and plan when considering pricecuts, sure competitors may press and you need to change plans, but just small changes on your sales projection or wanting to sell more than a competitor isn't reason to pricecut.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Bofferbrauer2 said:
curl-6 said:

I was talking global sales, as in with VGC's next set of numbers of the week ending 21st of July, I expect PS4 to be back on top. As far as NPD goes, I'll believe it when I see it.

Well, what the PS4 wins in Europe, it's losing in Japan again. US are pretty much determining right now who wins the week.

Good point. Still though, Switch took this week on the strength of a breakout hit in Octopath, next week it won't have a significant new release to boost hardware sales.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

That's nice. It became a bit boring with the usual order.



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