I don't care what nonsense either of you want to pull out of your butts in your latest one hundred post, million word squabble.

I quoted you because earlier in this very thread you were making fun of people for spreading/believing pure nonsense, but then you yourself were spreading and believing that same brand of sheer nonsense. Just, you know, the next time you want to point out some prinz/crapgamer type nonsense, just link to that post you made where you were trying to convince people the Xbox division was losing 2 billion per year during the height of the brands popularity.

Hope that helps.

Trying to convince?

It was a source I found in like 3 min of search when looking for profits and loses from X360, android patent. And if you read the post I used an IF. Like none can prove or disprove any amount of profit or loses made on the HW over a long period for either console.

But sure you are the king of not caring.

I’m the one upset but you should be the one who is. Great job covering your ears, ignoring my points and cry lalalala.

I was talking about Compulsion Games, but you’re right...Undead Labs is pure mediocrity as well.

Tbh calling SOD2 the best Zombie game ever to exist is what is absurd here.

That is complete and utter bullshit. I can say that with absolute authority because I learned, and happened to see things (during my PhD thesis time which was directly correlated with Blu-ray development) noone here had likely seen during the development of that technology cycle. So here is the short rundown:

PS3 development was loadad with development costs of the Blu-ray drive. Nobody within Sony had the money/the drive to fund development of this technology. Sony at that time was a pretty disfunctional company, it basically was every division against every other division. Ken Kutaragi didn't help at all there, he was a brilliant engineer but a lousy economist (not my words). As a rough guess, PS3 development was loaded with a) $1b cost to develop the blue laser diode to a mass manufacturing product. That was a remarkable feat, actually. I remember when someone stormed into our lab, yelling that a blue diode had been working for a full second! (in liquid nitrogen, I think) b) Building manufacturing plant(s) for the diodes (and Cell to a lesser extent), another cool $1b. c) Patent costs (unknown $, but very high). d) also, unbenownst to seemingly everyone as it went under the radar, the console department was d) loaded with a high restructuring/winding down bill (somewhere between $0.5-1b) for the laptop/pc segment. e) Cost of the Cell development. Other than what people think, those costs were relatively small for Sony (and lilely also for Samsung),  as IBM carried the brunt of those $0.5b.

All in all, the PS3 started about $3-4b in the hole, before the first console parts even entered the assembly plants. This can, of course, be naively added to the manufacturing costs of the PS3 consoles produced. The real cost of manufacturing a PS3 was, of course, lower than the manufacturing cost of a X360. As a generic manufacturer of all things that run on electricity, Sony has high leverage over MS with manufacturers (and engineers with lightyears of experience. Sony consoles are simply better designed than MS consoles, if manufacturing costs are considered).

I doubt that the deals Sony got from manufacturers (Asustek at first, later Foxconn) were sooo much better than the deals Microsoft got (Flextronics, Wistron and Celestica at first, later Foxconn).

I recall you ignoring some of the posts I made addressing you...

Haha! Just saw that there was an old reply to on of the threads I posted in. Came here, read this and laughed way to loud at the office! Even though you got moderated, I just wanted to tell you that I fully support your view and I am glad that somebody had the guts to put it in a post.

User was Banned for Flamming due to this post - cycycychris

I am active on this site for more than 10 years now. I have seen many people come and go and the truth is that the level of discussion tends to fluctuate quality wise quite a bit.

But please don't flatter yourself. You were called out on BS so many times before that its hard to count. You regularly called out people on their "stupidity" just to be completely off the mark several times yourself in discussions that you seem to forget. If you don't have anything of value to add, why degrade the conversation to an even lower level with a petty post like this? There are plenty of other highly intelligent forums out there