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Mr Puggsly said:
When Scalebound got cancelled I actually thought Ninja Theory would be the perfect developer to get it off the ground. So MAYBE something can happen there.

Sadly this E3 showed MS doesn't have a lot coming for X1 anytime soon. However, it shows they have long term plans for the brand and certainly into next gen.

No MS should not do that, Scalebound is Kamiya's creation if MS want to revive it it should done by Platinum. I honestly hope that they do revive Scalebound and Phantom Dust.



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Mr Puggsly said:
PAOerfulone said:
Another issue that Microsoft has with their 1st party is that they aren't really exclusives. Most, if not all of them, are also available on PC so it weakens the point of getting an Xbox when you could save up more money to get a gaming PC to get the best performance from these games.
When it comes to Sony and Nintendo, most, if not all of their main, important, first party games can only be played on their systems.
If I want to play Uncharted, InFamous, Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo, God of War, and Last of Us, I have to get a PS4. No ifs, ands, or buts.
If I want to play Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, and Smash Bros, I have to get a Switch. No ifs, ands, or buts.

You are aware these MS games are only launching on MS platforms, right? You say PC, but you mean Windows.

Many of the games are only in the MS store. Whether you buy their games on Xbox or MS Store, you're still on their platform.

Yeah it's funny because I expect almost all future titles by MS Studios to be play anywhere so when you buy on PC(Windows) then you are also buying on Xbox.



EspadaGrim said:
Mr Puggsly said:
When Scalebound got cancelled I actually thought Ninja Theory would be the perfect developer to get it off the ground. So MAYBE something can happen there.

Sadly this E3 showed MS doesn't have a lot coming for X1 anytime soon. However, it shows they have long term plans for the brand and certainly into next gen.

No MS should not do that, Scalebound is Kamiya's creation if MS want to revive it it should done by Platinum. I honestly hope that they do revive Scalebound and Phantom Dust.

Honestly, I don't think they could get Platinum to work on it. There may be some bad blood there, even if they're still putting games on Xbox.

Also, we don't really know how far development was in. Its possible much of the work was already completed. I feel like it has a better chance of being a launch title for new hardware.



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Great news. Microsoft is still pretty serious about gaming it seems. Now if Sony takes note and approach Oddworld Inhabitants..



Kyuu said:
Great news. Microsoft is still pretty serious about gaming it seems. Now if Sony takes note and approach Oddworld Inhabitants..

Sony doesn't really need to Expand right now they have great teams. Although I bet you that they have tried multiple to buy Insomniac though and would have bought Ready at Dawn if The Order was a better game.

Although Sony might react to this especially because of Ninja Theory because they could have had them after HellBlade.



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DonFerrari said:
EspadaGrim said:
Heavenly Sword 2 concept art has been out there for years, they planned on a second one and Sony didn`t greenlight it.

Not greenlighting is totally diferent than canceling as far as it goes.

nanarchy said:

That is just silly. You can't just suddenly start developing more games as that requires studios and staff, Building studios from scratch is expensive and time consuming, far more cost effective and faster to acquire decent ones that are already productive.

Sorry but no. When you buy the studio you buy more than the bricks, you buy IPs, knowledge, so it costs more than creating a new one. Now if you want to talk bout being easier sure.

IP is PART of building a new studio, IP can be purchased without purchasing the company. Far better to get the whole bundle with staff. time to staff up a new studio is time consuming, expensive and uncertain as to the outcome.



DonFerrari said:
EspadaGrim said:
Heavenly Sword 2 concept art has been out there for years, they planned on a second one and Sony didn`t greenlight it.

Not greenlighting is totally diferent than canceling as far as it goes.

Yes it was Cancelled read this https://www.unseen64.net/2012/11/23/heavenly-sword-2-cancelled-ps3/



Faelco said:
DonFerrari said:
As I said in the other thread, this is a very good step on fulfilling the promise of improved 1st party.
And it's easier to increase bought studios than create from scrap, so this can really go well.
But as other said, we need to see if they will get chance to shine with AAA games.

Yeah, it is a good move but with a couple of questions. 

Most of these studios were already developing exclusively for Xbox, so was it necessary to buy them? 

The main question for me is that the number of studios were not the most important issue for Xbox so far. It was their way of dealing with their exclusive games. Phantom Dust, Scalebound, Fable Legends, Crackdown 3... You can also add that the games that do release are not of the best quality (Sea of thieves, State of Decay 2...). It can't be only because of the studios, Microsoft and their orders to the studios are also to blame here (focus on MP and GaaS for example). So, will Microsoft be able to help these new studios to grow and make great games? I'm not sure about that, but only time will tell. 

My exact thoughts. Who cares if they buy studios. It's about the management of those studios and what kind of games they pump out. This gen has given me little confidence on those things. And I think a lot of gamers are going to be wary of picking up just an XB2 if they can get just one console.

Personally, I see a repeat of this gen. Sony just has the mindshare, services install base, and goodwill going forward. And they are going to make to not repeat the mistakes of the PS3. This also means a good couple of years worth of Xbox 1st party support, but as the sales don't come in, it'll start to dry up. 



PAOerfulone said:
Another issue that Microsoft has with their 1st party is that they aren't really exclusives. Most, if not all of them, are also available on PC so it weakens the point of getting an Xbox when you could save up more money to get a gaming PC to get the best performance from these games.
When it comes to Sony and Nintendo, most, if not all of their main, important, first party games can only be played on their systems.
If I want to play Uncharted, InFamous, Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo, God of War, and Last of Us, I have to get a PS4. No ifs, ands, or buts.
If I want to play Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, and Smash Bros, I have to get a Switch. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Microsoft doesn't care if you give them money through the Windows Store or on Xbox...



Teeqoz said:
PAOerfulone said:
Another issue that Microsoft has with their 1st party is that they aren't really exclusives. Most, if not all of them, are also available on PC so it weakens the point of getting an Xbox when you could save up more money to get a gaming PC to get the best performance from these games.
When it comes to Sony and Nintendo, most, if not all of their main, important, first party games can only be played on their systems.
If I want to play Uncharted, InFamous, Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo, God of War, and Last of Us, I have to get a PS4. No ifs, ands, or buts.
If I want to play Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, and Smash Bros, I have to get a Switch. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Microsoft doesn't care if you give them money through the Windows Store or on Xbox...

True. But, it does make it less necessary to buy a XBO/XB2. And this is from the very start of the gen. Not a few years after having true exclusives. Can't be good for HW sales.