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CrazyGamer2017 on 04 June 2018
Super_Boom said:
Without really looking deeply into this, I would say this is the right ruling. It's one thing if he's refusing any service whatsover, but this makes it sound like he's being asked to provide a service that endorses something he doesn't support. I would obviously disagree with his way of thinking, but it's a private business at the end of the day, the only thing that should be punished is his wallet through lost business. As sick as his way of thinking might be, it makes me more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint.

I see.

But and I mean this very respectfully, next time you or better yet, one of your children are seriously sick and you urgently rush them to the hospital and the doctor or surgeon there says that he refuses to save their lives cause he does not like your skin color or your opinions or whatever, then if you are consistent with what you are saying you'll simply leave the hospital with your dying kid and rush to another hospital hoping you get there on time to save your kid, if you don't get there on time then you cannot blame that surgeon who refused to help because and I quote you "it makes you more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint".

You must respect his "freedom" to not save your kid, because apparently in America one does not choose a job to provide a service to everyone but only to a select group depending on personal beliefs and opinions.



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pokoko on 04 June 2018
CrazyGamer2017 said:
pokoko said:

Is it a European thing to not read before commenting or is that just you?  I mean, seriously.  You're not even arguing the case or the decision.

Don't you see we are debating a very specific situation?

And I read you the first time but this is the second time you post saying this and you still don't explain yourself.

Don't end a post by "you are not arguing the case or the decision", end it with an explanation on what the case is and what the decision is, something basic, no need to write a long essay.

Your post reminds me of people who reply "you are wrong"... and nothing else. It's fine to say one is wrong but a bit of context and explanation of why one is wrong is obviously missing in such posts.

All the context and explanation is already in the thread and you ignored every bit of it so you could argue what you wanted to argue.  That's on you, not me.

If you had read any of it, you would know that the baker refusing to serve the customer because he's gay would be illegal.  That's not what happened.  The customer was offered other products.  The case is that the baker refused to provide a product for a function that they did not support from a religious standpoint.  That's not the same thing.  



Maxosaurus-rex on 04 June 2018
CrazyGamer2017 said:
Super_Boom said:
Without really looking deeply into this, I would say this is the right ruling. It's one thing if he's refusing any service whatsover, but this makes it sound like he's being asked to provide a service that endorses something he doesn't support. I would obviously disagree with his way of thinking, but it's a private business at the end of the day, the only thing that should be punished is his wallet through lost business. As sick as his way of thinking might be, it makes me more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint.

I see.

But and I mean this very respectfully, next time you or better yet, one of your children are seriously sick and you urgently rush them to the hospital and the doctor or surgeon there says that he refuses to save their lives cause he does not like your skin color or your opinions or whatever, then if you are consistent with what you are saying you'll simply leave the hospital with your dying kid and rush to another hospital hoping you get there on time to save your kid, if you don't get there on time then you cannot blame that surgeon who refused to help because and I quote you "it makes you more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint".

You must respect his "freedom" to not save your kid, because apparently in America one does not choose a job to provide a service to everyone but only to a select group depending on personal beliefs and opinions.

Quit with the hyperbole.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath



HollyGamer on 04 June 2018

People have the right to choose and support different type of people or not to agreeing certain ideology or people. If the guy don't like Muslim, Asian, black or gay , it's up to them. As long it doesn't harm the person physically. Especially with business decision that is a free market (a right to choose ). They can go find other bakeries and cake stores.



HollyGamer on 04 June 2018
CrazyGamer2017 said:
Super_Boom said:
Without really looking deeply into this, I would say this is the right ruling. It's one thing if he's refusing any service whatsover, but this makes it sound like he's being asked to provide a service that endorses something he doesn't support. I would obviously disagree with his way of thinking, but it's a private business at the end of the day, the only thing that should be punished is his wallet through lost business. As sick as his way of thinking might be, it makes me more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint.

I see.

But and I mean this very respectfully, next time you or better yet, one of your children are seriously sick and you urgently rush them to the hospital and the doctor or surgeon there says that he refuses to save their lives cause he does not like your skin color or your opinions or whatever, then if you are consistent with what you are saying you'll simply leave the hospital with your dying kid and rush to another hospital hoping you get there on time to save your kid, if you don't get there on time then you cannot blame that surgeon who refused to help because and I quote you "it makes you more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint".

You must respect his "freedom" to not save your kid, because apparently in America one does not choose a job to provide a service to everyone but only to a select group depending on personal beliefs and opinions.

And then you compare a bakeries with a doctor SMH LMAO 



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Aeolus451 on 04 June 2018
Wiibaron said:
Should a gay owned bakery be forced to make a cake that says 'God Hates Fags'? There is the answer without BS.

That's a good comparison that explains this well enough even if the religious aspect is not included.



HollyGamer on 04 June 2018
Wiibaron said:
Should a gay owned bakery be forced to make a cake that says 'God Hates Fags'? There is the answer without BS.

Yes this so true 



pokoko on 04 June 2018
CrazyGamer2017 said:
Super_Boom said:
Without really looking deeply into this, I would say this is the right ruling. It's one thing if he's refusing any service whatsover, but this makes it sound like he's being asked to provide a service that endorses something he doesn't support. I would obviously disagree with his way of thinking, but it's a private business at the end of the day, the only thing that should be punished is his wallet through lost business. As sick as his way of thinking might be, it makes me more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint.

I see.

But and I mean this very respectfully, next time you or better yet, one of your children are seriously sick and you urgently rush them to the hospital and the doctor or surgeon there says that he refuses to save their lives cause he does not like your skin color or your opinions or whatever, then if you are consistent with what you are saying you'll simply leave the hospital with your dying kid and rush to another hospital hoping you get there on time to save your kid, if you don't get there on time then you cannot blame that surgeon who refused to help because and I quote you "it makes you more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint".

You must respect his "freedom" to not save your kid, because apparently in America one does not choose a job to provide a service to everyone but only to a select group depending on personal beliefs and opinions.

That's complete bullshit and a fake argument.  Fix your ignorance.  All your hyperbole and exaggeration just make people want to ignore any actual points you might have.



CrazyGamer2017 on 04 June 2018
HollyGamer said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

I see.

But and I mean this very respectfully, next time you or better yet, one of your children are seriously sick and you urgently rush them to the hospital and the doctor or surgeon there says that he refuses to save their lives cause he does not like your skin color or your opinions or whatever, then if you are consistent with what you are saying you'll simply leave the hospital with your dying kid and rush to another hospital hoping you get there on time to save your kid, if you don't get there on time then you cannot blame that surgeon who refused to help because and I quote you "it makes you more sick to imagine a world where everyone is forced to agree with each other at legal gunpoint".

You must respect his "freedom" to not save your kid, because apparently in America one does not choose a job to provide a service to everyone but only to a select group depending on personal beliefs and opinions.

And then you compare a bakeries with a doctor SMH LMAO 

You can LYAO all you want the issue is, refusing to do a service for something completely UNRELATED to the service itself, and baking a cake or providing a medical service have both as much NOTHING to do with one's religious beliefs. if one has the right to use his religious beliefs to refuse doing his job, so does the other. Are you at war with logic?



HollyGamer on 04 June 2018
CrazyGamer2017 said:
HollyGamer said:

And then you compare a bakeries with a doctor SMH LMAO 

You can LYAO all you want the issue is, refusing to do a service for something completely UNRELATED to the service itself, and baking a cake or providing a medical service have both as much NOTHING to do with one's religious beliefs. if one has the right to use his religious beliefs to refuse doing his job, so does the other. Are you at war with logic?

The meaning of free market is people (in these case bakers or seller) have the right to choose their costumers either based on like or dislike, religion or their ideology. SMH Children these days got offended easily  by a bakeries LMAO