NightlyPoe said:
Technically, it's a freedom of speech issue, which is often confusing because it's mixed in with religious rights. By practicing medicine on a person, you're not endorsing anything about them. The reason this came to be is that all doctors must treat every patient, no matter how legitimately vile. It's not just people of different races, but also rapists, murderers, war criminals, whatever. By decorating a cake to celebrate a marriage, you would be endorsing that viewpoint. We understand this in normal situations because bakers routinely turn away business that they might disagree with like erotic cakes or those that contain some kind of slur without controversy. So the situations are quite different. You're arguing that the government should be in the business of deciding which types of speech are okay for a baker to choose not to endorse and which they absolutely must endorse. I find that such a belief flies directly in the face of the 1st Amendment. |
I'm not so sure freedom of speech is the issue here, no one is telling the baker he cannot freely voice his opinions. But that's not what's happening here, in this case the baker is TAKING ACTION by refusing to serve a customer. That's action and not speech, the difference is important, speech is just words coming out of your mouth and your total freedom of choice of those words.
Also since when doing that cake means endorsing that viewpoint? The gay couple are CUSTOMERS, not friends, not companions, not brothers to the baker, just customers. The baker is asking for money in exchange of the service. Who is going to accuse the baker of becoming gay or loving gays just cause he's doing his job for which he will receive money?
As for the government, WHERE do you see me say I want the gov to decide which SPEECH is ok? I only want the gov to enforce anti-discrimination laws. Every-body believes and thinks whatever they want and free speech is GREAT, honestly it is. But that should not give you the right to discriminate a customer. There's a difference between disliking a group of individuals and taking action against them.
I think I'll stop here first cause I've voiced my opinion at length, second and this is kind of weird: WHERE are the other people that wants equality and are against discrimination? It seem I'm the only one in this thread defending the rights of the gay community? I would have thought there would be more people here to defend equality for all but it seems I'm oddly alone. Weird!