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KLXVER said:
curl-6 said:

Nah, TP actually has quality dungeons, a decent art style, and no coma-inducing sailing.

GC games have definitely better technically, but I still feel like Ocarina is much better than WW and TP, Mario 64 much better than Sunshine, Starfox 64 much better than Adventures/Assault, etc.

I would say Mario 64 is slightly better than Sunshine. Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, so yeah. StarFox 64 is probably better, but I enjoy way more GC games than N64 games. Outside of Nintendo and Rare there wasn't much to write home about.

True, but Rare + Nintendo both had amazing output in the N64 era, between the two of them we got Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, Starfox 64, F-Zero X, Mario Kart 64, Paper Mario, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Goldeneye 007, Perfect Dark, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Blast Corps, Jet Force Gemini, Diddy Kong Racing...



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VAMatt said:

I think I understand your underlying point, and I think I agree.  Basically, Gamecube is when Nintendo decided to differentiate their system from the other guys'.  They differentiated by doing weird stuff, which mostly failed to add to the gaming experience.  They definitely did try to make the Gamecube seem portable, but it really wasn't significantly easier to take with you than PS2 or XB.  Switch is actually a portable home console, or at least close to one.  With GC, they tried to create controller options (you could hold the controller in multiple ways), but they ended up with a weird, unbalanced thing.  Switch has multiple control options that are actually good.  They tried to make their existing IPs feel fresh and new on GC, but they mostly missed the mark.  They've seem to have done a better job of this on Switch (though its too early to say for sure.)  

That's exactly my point. The Switch gets a lot of things right, and like NIntendo and everyone here says, it takes its inspiration from every piece of Nintendo history. But many of its design and aesthetic elements all owe a lot to when the GameCube tried to do them, but failed in doing so. 



curl-6 said:
KLXVER said:

I would say Mario 64 is slightly better than Sunshine. Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, so yeah. StarFox 64 is probably better, but I enjoy way more GC games than N64 games. Outside of Nintendo and Rare there wasn't much to write home about.

True, but Rare + Nintendo both had amazing output in the N64 era, between the two of them we got Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, Starfox 64, F-Zero X, Mario Kart 64, Paper Mario, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Goldeneye 007, Perfect Dark, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Blast Corps, Jet Force Gemini, Diddy Kong Racing...

Some great games there for sure, but nothing compared to the top games on GC imo. Except Mario 64 and DK64.



KLXVER said:
curl-6 said:

True, but Rare + Nintendo both had amazing output in the N64 era, between the two of them we got Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, Starfox 64, F-Zero X, Mario Kart 64, Paper Mario, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Goldeneye 007, Perfect Dark, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Blast Corps, Jet Force Gemini, Diddy Kong Racing...

Some great games there for sure, but nothing compared to the top games on GC imo. Except Mario 64 and DK64.

I dunno, most GCN games just lacked that Nintendo spark for me. Games like Ocarina, Banjo, Mario 64, felt like they were at the forefront of pushing gaming forwards; with the exception of Metroid Prime, almost never got that sense from GC's software. Too many GC games were weird experiment that took franchises that were cool and epic on N64 and made them lame and gimmicky.



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curl-6 said:
KLXVER said:

Some great games there for sure, but nothing compared to the top games on GC imo. Except Mario 64 and DK64.

I dunno, most GCN games just lacked that Nintendo spark for me. Games like Ocarina, Banjo, Mario 64, felt like they were at the forefront of pushing gaming forwards; with the exception of Metroid Prime, almost never got that sense from GC's software. Too many GC games were weird experiment that took franchises that were cool and epic on N64 and made them lame and gimmicky.

Maybe the N64 had a bit stronger first party output(I don't think so, but I guess many people do), but add in third party and the GC buries it. Nintendo games are always different though. Mario 64 is different from Sunshine which is different from Galaxy etc. Same with Zelda.



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KLXVER said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, most GCN games just lacked that Nintendo spark for me. Games like Ocarina, Banjo, Mario 64, felt like they were at the forefront of pushing gaming forwards; with the exception of Metroid Prime, almost never got that sense from GC's software. Too many GC games were weird experiment that took franchises that were cool and epic on N64 and made them lame and gimmicky.

Maybe the N64 had a bit stronger first party output(I don't think so, but I guess many people do), but add in third party and the GC buries it. Nintendo games are always different though. Mario 64 is different from Sunshine which is different from Galaxy etc. Same with Zelda.

Third party was better on GC, but Rare left, and their output on N64 beat all the third parties on GC put together in my book.



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N64 makes GCN look like an embarrassment.



curl-6 said:
KLXVER said:

Maybe the N64 had a bit stronger first party output(I don't think so, but I guess many people do), but add in third party and the GC buries it. Nintendo games are always different though. Mario 64 is different from Sunshine which is different from Galaxy etc. Same with Zelda.

Third party was better on GC, but Rare left, and their output on N64 beat all the third parties on GC put together in my book.

Its hard to argue taste, so we would just go back and forth on this. Rare was great, but Resident Evil 4 was on the GC, so...



KLXVER said:
curl-6 said:

Third party was better on GC, but Rare left, and their output on N64 beat all the third parties on GC put together in my book.

Its hard to argue taste, so we would just go back and forth on this. Rare was great, but Resident Evil 4 was on the GC, so...

Yeah, pretty much, it is all down to taste. Funnily enough Resident Evil 4 is my favourite game of all time. XD



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curl-6 said:
KLXVER said:

Its hard to argue taste, so we would just go back and forth on this. Rare was great, but Resident Evil 4 was on the GC, so...

Yeah, pretty much, it is all down to taste. Funnily enough Resident Evil 4 is my favourite game of all time. XD

Its one of mine too. Along with Eternal Darkness and Wind Waker.