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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony FY2017 - HW 19 Million Sold, SW 246.9 Million Sold. 79 Million Shipped Ending March 31st.

Louie said:
16 million sounds a bit pessimistic to me but maybe they are just trying to be conservative. Or, if the PS5 really releases in late 2019, they are allocating resources to it already. Should be a nice battle between the PS4 and the Switch this year.

They were pessimistic with their forecast last March as well.They increased their forecast by 1M halfway through the FY. By the end of the next FY, the PS4 would have caught up with the Wii.



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Miyamotoo said:
Barkley said:
16m seems low for shipments, it's at the very least on track to sell 18m to consumers this calendar year. It almost gives more credit to the q1 2019 ps5 rumour. xD

But 96m shipped by March 2019, I can live with that.

FY 2018. just started, not even hole month is over.

Did you miss the word "calendar"?



Barkley said:
Miyamotoo said:

FY 2018. just started, not even hole month is over.

Did you miss the word "calendar"?

Actualy I did, but in any case this forecast from 1. April 2018. to 31. March 2018.



Lawlight said:
Louie said:
16 million sounds a bit pessimistic to me but maybe they are just trying to be conservative. Or, if the PS5 really releases in late 2019, they are allocating resources to it already. Should be a nice battle between the PS4 and the Switch this year.

They were pessimistic with their forecast last March as well.They increased their forecast by 1M halfway through the FY. By the end of the next FY, the PS4 would have caught up with the Wii.

True I forgot they changed last years forecast.

I fully expect they'll raise the forecast, perhaps to 18m.



UltimateGamer1982 said:

PlayStation had an operating profit of $1.6 Billion.

Sony forecasts 16 Million PS4s for FY2018. A three million unit decrease from the year prior. 

Huh? why? ... guess this means no price cuts this year.

*sigh*



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BlackBeauty said:
Why are people surprised by the forecast? It’s literally dead in japan.

PS5 is coming close I feel.

Its been sold out (stock issues) for like 2months or more there.... Hard to sell something you dont have.
If Sony fix'ed stock issues, you d see it go back to ~25k a week again, instead of doing like 12-15k atm.



JRPGfan said:
BlackBeauty said:
Why are people surprised by the forecast? It’s literally dead in japan.

PS5 is coming close I feel.

Its been sold out (stock issues) for like 2months or more there.... Hard to sell something you dont have.
If Sony fix'ed stock issues, you d see it go back to ~25k a week again, instead of doing like 12-15k atm.

There's some people you quote, and others you ignore. If you've not learnt yet I recommend looking at this persons post history. xD



Lawlight said:
Louie said:
16 million sounds a bit pessimistic to me but maybe they are just trying to be conservative. Or, if the PS5 really releases in late 2019, they are allocating resources to it already. Should be a nice battle between the PS4 and the Switch this year.

They were pessimistic with their forecast last March as well.They increased their forecast by 1M halfway through the FY. By the end of the next FY, the PS4 would have caught up with the Wii.

Yeah, I guess they are just being conservative and will beat their own forecast.



BlackBeauty said:
Why are people surprised by the forecast? It’s literally dead in japan.

PS5 is coming close I feel.

When you think you know sales and the situation in Japan, but you really don't.



BlackBeauty said:
Why are people surprised by the forecast? It’s literally dead in japan.

PS5 is coming close I feel.

You literally don't know the meaning of the word literally. Words matter, please choose them them wisely :)

Some recent sales numbers from Japan in March.

PlatformWeekly (change)Total
NS 44,874 (+12%) 3,823,113
PS4 19,987 (-43%) 6,457,900
3DS 11,385 (+4%) 23,995,282
PSV 6,609 (+36%) 5,759,075
XOne 256 (-13%) 93,062

Xbox One is figuratively dead, due to its low sales in Japan. If Xbox One sold 0 units, then it would literally be dead :). Xbox One is on life support in Japan.

Agreed that Sony aren't selling as well as Switch in Japan, at the moment, but they are hardly dead. It will be interesting to see how the unit sales change in April with God of War being reviewed well, even in Japan. 

I'm still of the opinion that Switch, like Wii, is another rather big fad. By the end of 2018 everyone's Switch will be sitting in the closet right next to their Wiis. Power to Nintendo for tapping into the right fad every couple years and keeping their investors happy. Let's hope they don't release a Switch-U.

Lastly, not doing well in 1 region doesn't automatically mean a new console is on the horizon. If that was a valid console release strategy Microsoft would need to release a new console every year because they systematically do badly in Japan. They just don't understand the Japanese market. I'm hoping one day the penny will drop and they'll be competitive there, eventually.