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o_O.Q said:
kljesta64 said:
you shouldnt be concerned about that respect thing ... there are women who like the same shit you do.

every man should be concerned about respecting women as their paramount value when interacting with women

how the hell can you claim otherwise?

Isn't that kinda sexist though? I just treat women just like I do everyone else. The only preferential I give is to people I'm on good terms with. Women aren't some protected class or delicate little flowers that need protecting. They can handle people being rude or mean to them or hitting on them.



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Aeolus451 said:
o_O.Q said:

every man should be concerned about respecting women as their paramount value when interacting with women

how the hell can you claim otherwise?

Isn't that kinda sexist though? I just treat women just like I do everyone else. The only preferential I give is to people I'm on good terms with. Women aren't some protected class or delicate little flowers that need protecting. They can handle people being rude or mean to them or hitting on them.

you have to view this through the lens of women being dominated by men for centuries and we're now trying to bring them up to be equal with men



Farsala said:
o_O.Q said:

"Airbrushing  and touchups to make someone look more perfect. Longer legs, bigger eyes, longer neck, a ton of makeup etc. Models who lose a ton of weight for photo day, only to regain it back for a more normal weight. Fake boobs, butt, nose etc. Camera manipulation and lighting with unreasonable positions etc. etc. the list goes on."

you are coming very close here to criticising women who use makeup and plastic surgery to achieve an enhanced appearance

i myself know of a women who recently had a very expensive surgery to suck the fat from her belly and put it in her ass to appear more curvy

I am fine with personal decisions, I just don't like corporate decisions.

it didn't sound that way to me

to me you seemed to be saying that women who aspire to stand out by using deceptive techniques such as surgery or makeup are bad

since you mentioned the manipulation of images to present an idealised standard



o_O.Q said:
Aeolus451 said:

Isn't that kinda sexist though? I just treat women just like I do everyone else. The only preferential I give is to people I'm on good terms with. Women aren't some protected class or delicate little flowers that need protecting. They can handle people being rude or mean to them or hitting on them.

you have to view this through the lens of women being dominated by men for centuries and we're now trying to bring them up to be equal with men

Meh. They are equal at least in the west and some parts in the east. They don't deserve preferential treatment for being a woman. They deserve equality and that also comes with equal responsibility/standards as men. They can't have it both ways all the time. I'm not for "let's fight sexism with more sexism." activism. In reality, they get equality and the privileges of getting preferential treatment so I really get tired of monetized feminists always making a stink over silly shit like female characters in video games looking like attractive women.



Tie up some women and whip them?



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Jaicee said:
John2290 said:

You are talking deep throughting which isn't the only oral and yeah, not many women can or are willing but a a BJ is never an issue and whatever servey data you have on that it must askin on a first encounter or some shit or rhe sample size were wrong or lying. Also, I've much more chance in give a woman an orgasm orally,much, much faster than shagging and again much much faster with my hand. 

Your serveys are incorrect or asking the wrong pool of people. 

*sigh* Okay, since you don't believe me, here you are: the datas.

In case you're too lazy to click on the link, here's the bottom line: statistically speaking, men are twice as likely to enjoy performing oral sex on women as women are to enjoy performing oral sex on men, but, in spite of this fact, are far less likely to bother.

Specifically: only 26% of women report performing oral sex on a man at all, and only 28% of those that do say that they actually enjoy doing so. 28% of 26%. I don't have a calculator handy, but mental math is sufficient to indicate that that's less than 10% of all women. So that's why I feel justified in saying that "very few women enjoy performing oral sex" on men. Also, the poll does not say "deep throat". It says "oral sex".

The reason women are more likely to perform oral sex than men despite far more rarely enjoying it is because...well that's what porn says you're supposed to do. Porn conversely does not say that men are supposed to return the favor very often, so men rarely bother IRL.

That’s not a statistically valid survey.



Farsala said:
 

Yep its unavoidable, its natural to have sexual feelings. But its intent that matters. The media and mainstream porn showcases bodies that are impossible. Clothed people, partially clothed people, or nude people shouldn't be seen as a bad thing.  If people saw more clothed or naked bodies naturally without all the added editing, then I believe society would be better off.

I would add a differentiation between displays of genuine sexual agency and sexual objectification (the latter of which is to what I refer with the term "sexualization"). I'm not sure if pictoral illustrations of the difference (at least as I see it) would be considered acceptable on VG Chartz, but it is worth saying that when I was in my tweenage years especially, I enjoyed playing video games/franchises like Golden Axe and Streets of Rage as certain sexy characters because I lacked sexual confidence myself and enjoyed fantasizing about being more attractive. But these I would different these from the way female characters were treated in many other games like Duke Nukem, which I always found demeaning; never uplifting.

But we also need to correct a massive quantity difference that exists in the distribution of sexual imagery of women versus men. Although I highlighted advertising before, I just meant that as one example. It's across all media. For example, only one-third of Hollywood actors are female, yet women are twice as likely as men to be featured in sexually explicit movie scenes. Therein you can see what they often hire women for, in contrast to what they hire men for.

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Porn should be banned, it should not exist in our advanced society. It does not matter that it employs a lot of people and that the women are there because they want and make good money on it. What matter is that a few people think it objectify women and degrate them. The same for camgirls. Also it seems black, fat, ugly, old and trans women are misrepresented.
We started with grid girls, now its time to free all women, including prostitution.



EnricoPallazzo said:
Porn should be banned, it should not exist in our advanced society. It does not matter that it employs a lot of people and that the women are there because they want and make good money on it. What matter is that a few people think it objectify women and degrate them. The same for camgirls. Also it seems black, fat, ugly, old and trans women are misrepresented.
We started with grid girls, now its time to free all women, including prostitution.

Yes, at the same time ban modelling, lingerie, specific types of clothes, and make sending nudes a felony. 

We should also make it a law that you're only allowed to have sex when being blindfolded, to prohibit people from doing it simply for their sexual desires. 



Watching porn doesn't mean you are disrespecting women.



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