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flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

2 - Did you purposely ignored the "over all the years" on my original comment?

5 - If a list of 10 items is weaker than 1 single item against it them it is a rather dull exercise.

2- I don't care what you're talking about. I'm talking about what happening right NOW.

5- that's your opinion.

2 - You don't care because it didn't fit to your point anymore.

5 - All your points were your opinion, so?

Pemalite said:
hudsoniscool said:
2) IMHO Xbox live is vastly superior than psn in almost every way imaginable at this point. I’ve used both plenty and it’s just an opinion. I spend most of my time doing online stuff so this is a big one.

It technically is superior to the Playstation Network.
Microsoft not only has more servers available thanks to Azure... But, they also spend more on bandwidth and have more peering arrangements with various CDN's.
Some providers in Australia will also capture the Xbox data traveling down PIPE (Using extremely expensive equipment) and push it onto their own CDN very early, which has ridiculous amounts of bandwidth and super low latency.

hudsoniscool said:
3) halo.... it’s actually 3 games currently mcc,halo 5, and hw2.

Master Chief Collection was and still is a buggy mess.
Halo Wars 2 isn't exclusive.
Halo 5 is probably the worst Halo mainline game yet.

Hoping the franchise gets back on track with Halo 6... But, Halo hasn't got the same luster as it once did during the Halo 3/Reach era that's for sure, it needs a good solid reboot, it worked for Call of Duty WW2 and Battlefield.

DonFerrari said:

In Brazil it is common for PC games to launch about 140-160 (local currency) versus console at 250... Sony published are 200 which is a plus on console gaming. 

That is a significant discrepancy all things considered.

CartBlanche said:

If backwards compatibility and biggest library of old games that still run as well as multi-platform games is ALL you care about, then you might as well just get a PC!! With MAME and every other known emulator you can play PC games from 40 years ago, as well as Consoles games too, all on your PC. You don't need an Xbox One for that.

If you already own the games on Xbox, it doesn't make sense to ignore that library and purchase them again on PC.
That is the big advantage on offer here from Xbox.

Yep, and I'm kinda grateful for Sony to keep their published titles cheaper than the third parties in Brazil and competition (won't include Nintendo because their lack of representation makes several of their games to retail over 300), at the time conversion rate was at about 4:1 we were getting games "cheaper" than USA since the 200 was already with all taxes.

The price of the PC games may have changed since I don't follow it closely, but several of the titles I plan on getting my friend usually talks about them very near launch at obscene low prices on PC version.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Pemalite said: 
CartBlanche said:

If backwards compatibility and biggest library of old games that still run as well as multi-platform games is ALL you care about, then you might as well just get a PC!! With MAME and every other known emulator you can play PC games from 40 years ago, as well as Consoles games too, all on your PC. You don't need an Xbox One for that.

If you already own the games on Xbox, it doesn't make sense to ignore that library and purchase them again on PC.
That is the big advantage on offer here from Xbox.

My post was specifically directed at the original assertion that... 

"Xbox One is the best console if you don't care about exclusive new games"

My other point is BC, whether done via Sony's crappy offering or all the development time Microsoft has invested, doesn't have any long term value, IMO. Gamers buy new consoles to play new games, whether that is a totally new IP or Version X+1 of the game that was on the last gen console, or a remastered version of a classic. No one wants to play ALL the crappy games from the last 7 generations, even if you did own them. There are only a few games each gen that push the boundaries of story, gameplay, graphics and might just be fun, that are worth bringing back as a remaster or re-imagining in future gens of a console. The vast majority are just poly-filla/bumph. 

 That is the reality of each generation.

 

So rather than spend that time/money on BC, Microsoft could have been investing that time/money in new gaming experiences that really take advantage of the Xbox One X's power. So many missed opportunities. SMH. Maybe they will pull a rabbit out of the bag at E3 and blow everyone away. But even if they do announce new IPs etc, those will take another year or so to hit the shelves. God of War was 5 years in development to get it to the state it is at today, with all the plaudits it has achieved. Microsoft need a AAA game that literally causes mouths to drop visually, a great story and amazing game mechanics. Gamers are getting used to quality across the board of a game, so Microsoft better step it up and grow up with their vision of games and what gamers expect. 



Pemalite said:
hudsoniscool said:
2) IMHO Xbox live is vastly superior than psn in almost every way imaginable at this point. I’ve used both plenty and it’s just an opinion. I spend most of my time doing online stuff so this is a big one.

It technically is superior to the Playstation Network.
Microsoft not only has more servers available thanks to Azure... But, they also spend more on bandwidth and have more peering arrangements with various CDN's.
Some providers in Australia will also capture the Xbox data traveling down PIPE (Using extremely expensive equipment) and push it onto their own CDN very early, which has ridiculous amounts of bandwidth and super low latency.

hudsoniscool said:
3) halo.... it’s actually 3 games currently mcc,halo 5, and hw2.

Master Chief Collection was and still is a buggy mess.
Halo Wars 2 isn't exclusive.
Halo 5 is probably the worst Halo mainline game yet.

Hoping the franchise gets back on track with Halo 6... But, Halo hasn't got the same luster as it once did during the Halo 3/Reach era that's for sure, it needs a good solid reboot, it worked for Call of Duty WW2 and Battlefield.

DonFerrari said:

In Brazil it is common for PC games to launch about 140-160 (local currency) versus console at 250... Sony published are 200 which is a plus on console gaming. 

That is a significant discrepancy all things considered.


CartBlanche said:

If backwards compatibility and biggest library of old games that still run as well as multi-platform games is ALL you care about, then you might as well just get a PC!! With MAME and every other known emulator you can play PC games from 40 years ago, as well as Consoles games too, all on your PC. You don't need an Xbox One for that.

If you already own the games on Xbox, it doesn't make sense to ignore that library and purchase them again on PC.
That is the big advantage on offer here from Xbox.

Man if you find 150 to 250 a big discrepancy, India has PC games from Konami, Square Enix and some publishers release at INR 1000 compared to all console games on PS4 at INR 4000 and Xbox One at INR 4200.



DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

2- I don't care what you're talking about. I'm talking about what happening right NOW.

5- that's your opinion.

2 - You don't care because it didn't fit to your point anymore.

5 - All your points were your opinion, so?

2- The article is talking abou NOW, everyone else is talking about NOW, I am talking about NOW. You want to include the past? Fine, then PSN loses by default because it got hacked numerous times, including a 6-week period in 2011, where people's indentities and credit cards were at huge risk. If we talk about the Past, the gap only gets bigger in favour of xbox.

5- are you saying backwards compatibility is an opinion? It exists, and that's a fact. Same with game pass, digital returns, and whatnot.



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flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

2 - You don't care because it didn't fit to your point anymore.

5 - All your points were your opinion, so?

2- The article is talking abou NOW, everyone else is talking about NOW, I am talking about NOW. You want to include the past? Fine, then PSN loses by default because it got hacked numerous times, including a 6-week period in 2011, where people's indentities and credit cards were at huge risk. If we talk about the Past, the gap only gets bigger in favour of xbox.

5- are you saying backwards compatibility is an opinion? It exists, and that's a fact. Same with game pass, digital returns, and whatnot.

2- yes, but my initial answer to you was about historic and you just ignored it and then backpedal

5 - the relevance is opinion and the other points you put as strengths were also opinion. If you want to dismiss opinions then don't ask to not be called out.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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reviniente said:
Nem said:

 

Impossible to facepalm any harder. That's a remake of a game that is 2 gens behind. Read the post, i don't very much enjoy wasting time. " I agree with the classic ones, but coming with a by the numbers comparison that includes last gen games "

Correction. It's a remake of a game already remastered once, for the PS3 no less. Keep working on that facepalm.

 

Yes, of course remakes and backwards compatibility are the same. It's the world that is wrong, not you. For real.



I know it comes to preferences but Xbone is one of the worst console if not the worst console in gaming.



 

Never seen such damage control for the lack of exclusives. Xbone will never have something of a masterpiece as Yakuza 6.

Last edited by Ruggarell - on 24 April 2018

this gen started off with PS4 as my system of choice for multi-plats as of the X release PS4 Pro is now for Sony's exclusives. X1X for all multi-plats and MS exclusives.



GOWTLOZ said:

Man if you find 150 to 250 a big discrepancy, India has PC games from Konami, Square Enix and some publishers release at INR 1000 compared to all console games on PS4 at INR 4000 and Xbox One at INR 4200.

Well, it does go a long way to explain why someone might choose a specific platform in certain regions... Rather than just chalking it up to mere brand preference.




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