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d21lewis said:
Manlytears said:

1 - are you talking about refunds? Cause you can do this on playstation easy, just make a call.

2 - alson can do this on playstation, whit psplus.

3 - talking about pro-controller? If yes, than i have to agree, that thing is expensive, but sure is another level, but... about the normal controller, it's a metter of opinion, but i find the DS4 miles better than the x1 standard controller...

4 - for real... do you have a ps4? Mine is quiet, just can't hear any sound while i'm playing.

5- $100 more expensive...

6- do you have some data? Something from the last 2 years? I see lots of people saying live is better, but is see no data.

Getting a refund for Star Wars Battlefront because I wanted to buy the Digital Deluxe Version instead of the regular version was the hardest thing I've ever had to do. The lady actually said that "I've done this too many times already". I had never gotten a refund before and was trying to but THE MORE EXPENSIVE VERSION.

 

It wasn't until I asked her to tell me when I'd ever gotten a refund before and she saw that I spent thousands on digital games that she authorized the refund. I hadn't even downloaded the game or played a single second of it.

 

Meanwhile, on Xbox One I had bought PUBG and realized that, after several matches, it totally sucked. I just clicked "refund" and my money was returned.

 

I actually haven't read the rest of your post but the easy refund thing is totally false!

 

*Edit*

2: I have multiple PS4s and Xbox Ones. I've said it repeatedly on this site but, on Xbox, playing a game is like watching a YouTube or Netflix movie. You can play a level, turn off the system (or even leave it on). Go to another console later on and jump in right where you left off in seconds. For FREE! 

 

I have two PS4s. Even when I had PS+, only the primary PS4 would automatically update to the cloud. It would only do it once per day. Other than that, you have to manually upload your save and then manually download the save on a second console. It's really cumbersome. You can copy your save data to a USB device, though.

 

4. I have a PS4 Pro and a regular PS4. Playing God of War on the Pro last night, it would sound like a jet engine! It would stop after a while but it would start again. Maybe every fifteen minutes.

Don't let people know you didn't like PUBG.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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xwar88x said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

I actually agree. Almost everything is better on Xbox (compared to PS4) except the most important thing: the games.

The UI is better, the controller is better, the online subscription package is better, the BC is far better. But games trump all, and that's why Xbox One is inferior to PS4.

The xbox one is terrible I bought a one s to play with a few mates and games randomly close down/crash, All my mates experience this! the free games every month you don't get to keep where as on ps you do so how is the online subscription package better? I do like the xbox controller but thats about it, I can see myself selling this for the switch very soon.

The xbox may be the most powerful but clearly they don't know how to make use of the xbox one x power. Just look at god of war! it's easily the best looking game ever made, you need to have talent on your side to make use of the one x power and to produce amazing graphics along with games. Even digital foundry done a comparisons with gt sport and forza 7 and gt sport is the better looking more detailed game.

Then there's the player base, ps4 are always pretty much double the amount with each game bought compared to xbox so multiplayer games are going to die on xbox much quicker and not be as active.

The xbox one x isn't a huge leap over the ps4 pro, the xbox one x is only going to be a bit sharper in games with it hitting near the 4k mark compared to the ps but it's nothing special. If the specs are right about the ps5 then we really will see a powerhouse console, the bad thing about the pro and one x is that it's gpu limited due to the poor cpu. The ps5 is looking to be  much more balance hardware wise and the cpu and gpu will work amazingly well together and will be very powerful also,. The ps5 will be insane.

Again, there's some misinformation.

On Xbox One, the only games you get to keep are the freeXbox 360 titles.

 

On PS+, when your subscription runs out, you don't keep ANYTHING.

 

Both consoles have amazing sales all the time and you do (obviously) get to keep any games you purchased at discounted prices.l



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hudsoniscool said:
Actually DonFerrari i chose Xbox one over ps4 for 3 reasons, and not just 1 game as u put it. 1st) all the features it has that ps4 doesn’t or the features it does better.2) IMHO Xbox live is vastly superior than psn in almost every way imaginable at this point. I’ve used both plenty and it’s just an opinion. I spend most of my time doing online stuff so this is a big one.3) halo.... it’s actually 3 games currently mcc,halo 5, and hw2.

1) At the start of the gen if I'm not wrong most of the features X1 have didn't exist on it, where you a late adopter?

2) No problem, a lot prefer XBL

3) Could be 20 Halos, won't even discount one being a collection and another a different genre.

Case in point and I wasn't even criticizing you, because I would chose PS4 even if only for GT, just saying that doesn't matter the size of the list of MPs and you saying you play 90% of your time MPs, you yourself said that Halo would already sway you to Xbox, no need to backtrack.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Me, selling my original Xbox One for peanuts:
"Wow, that's cool."

More like the best 7th gen console -_-



Well it’s a shame that it’s exclusive new games that actually makes the difference and sets the consoles apart then isn’t it.



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DonFerrari said:
reviniente said:

If the Xbox One had no exclusives, you would have a point. But alas, it does. Then you have all those PS4 players that chose GTAV over many exclusives. What are the odds RDR2 will outsell GoW on PS4? Guess they would rather have the hot-dog over the hamburger, instead. Your logic needs work.

Your logic is the one that needs work... because RDR2 and GoW will sell great on PS4, while RDR2 will sell great on X1 (but less than PS4) with SoT not doing anywhere near GoW sales.

That is the point people are saying, on PS4 you get what X1 has plus the exclusives. You simply get more.

The_Liquid_Laser said:

Actually I am still waiting for someone to show me one example from the past 30 days.  I somewhat expect there to be an example out there, since I'm not saying they are the same price 100% of the time.  I just find it funny that people are willing to argue so much while providing zero authentic evidence.

You are making it every time more restrictive right? You next you are going to ask for an example of this week? Pemalite already gave you some examples.

hudsoniscool said:

I’ll take those features any day. Would I love to play uncharted 4, horizon, last of us, and god of war. Of course I would but even if I did own a ps4 90% of my purchases would be muliplat games still so the question that I ask myself is. Do I want all those features + the best looking and playing version of muliplats or do I want to have those extra 10% of games. For me the choice is Xbox. I think people should respect that as I respect other people’s right to choose first party over all that. 

Ps my favorite game series of all time is halo so that helps sway me towards Xbox from the get go.

And when X1X didn't exist and PS4 (and after PS4Pro) had the best version of MP, and you didn't even had many X1 exclusives, you choose X1 and that is because of as you said Halo... which just again validate the claim that exclusives matters. A single Halo for you trumps all the exclusives you listed for PS4 and that is fine.

flashfire926 said:

Between me and you, my first choice is Xbox too. Mainly because of the Forza Series. and being able to carry over most of my 360 library (to the point where my 360 is almost useless now). Game Pass is just a great added bonus.

As for the last statement I made, I was talking about about the general consensus and not myself.

So it would be just Forza series, since BC was something added mid gen.

 

 

flashfire926 said:

1: Really? Can you link me to their policy please.

2: yeah, but on Xbox you don't have to pay for live to get cloud saves. Hence why I said "free".

3: okay fine, this one is more a matter of opinion, I'll give you that (although it's undeniable that analog stick placement on Xbox is better for everything that isn't a fighter or 2d platformer)

4: ps4 fans vary a lot, whereas Xbox is way more consistent. My friend has a jet engine variant

5: so what if it's a 100 bucks more? It's a high end console for enthusiasts. This isn't the base variant. 

6: live is down way less often than ps2 is. I'll get back to you once I've gathered the evidence.

2 - Do you really want to see all that MS have locked behind Gold over the years?

3 - It's totally deniable, a lot of users will say they had no issues and prefer PS layout while others will prefer X1.

5 - And where were you before the midgen update? Where you defending PS4 as the strongest and saying one should own it?

6 - Yes, I'm pretty sure PS2 network is down a lot.

2: none of which even compares to the importance of cloud saves.

3: okay fine, I'll give this one to you.

5: where was I defending anything? Go back and read the last sentence of my first post: "but all this pales in comparison to exclusives"

6: you know what's i meant

Again, about the forza thing, I got my Xbone in 2016, after bc was announced. And because I wasn't very easily willing to leave my gamer score behind.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

basiacly the only reason i keep my one is to play 360 games. 



DonFerrari said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

Actually I am still waiting for someone to show me one example from the past 30 days.  I somewhat expect there to be an example out there, since I'm not saying they are the same price 100% of the time.  I just find it funny that people are willing to argue so much while providing zero authentic evidence.

You are making it every time more restrictive right? You next you are going to ask for an example of this week? Pemalite already gave you some examples.

I've been asking this exact same thing for a long time now.  Also if Permalite gave me specific examples in the last 30 days, then I missed it.  Could you quote this post to me please?



flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

Your logic is the one that needs work... because RDR2 and GoW will sell great on PS4, while RDR2 will sell great on X1 (but less than PS4) with SoT not doing anywhere near GoW sales.

That is the point people are saying, on PS4 you get what X1 has plus the exclusives. You simply get more.

You are making it every time more restrictive right? You next you are going to ask for an example of this week? Pemalite already gave you some examples.

And when X1X didn't exist and PS4 (and after PS4Pro) had the best version of MP, and you didn't even had many X1 exclusives, you choose X1 and that is because of as you said Halo... which just again validate the claim that exclusives matters. A single Halo for you trumps all the exclusives you listed for PS4 and that is fine.

So it would be just Forza series, since BC was something added mid gen.

 

 

2 - Do you really want to see all that MS have locked behind Gold over the years?

3 - It's totally deniable, a lot of users will say they had no issues and prefer PS layout while others will prefer X1.

5 - And where were you before the midgen update? Where you defending PS4 as the strongest and saying one should own it?

6 - Yes, I'm pretty sure PS2 network is down a lot.

2: none of which even compares to the importance of cloud saves.

3: okay fine, I'll give this one to you.

5: where was I defending anything? Go back and read the last sentence of my first post: "but all this pales in comparison to exclusives"

6: you know what's i meant

Again, about the forza thing, I got my Xbone in 2016, after bc was announced. And because I wasn't very easily willing to leave my gamer score behind.

2 - Netflix behind a paywall doesn't compare to cloud saves (that you can just use, I don't know, a SD card or HDD)?

5 - If it pales them you wouldn't list it. You would be defending PS4 against X1 instead. Still before X1X launching were you defending PS4 as the strongest or criticizing lack of power on X1?

ok.

The_Liquid_Laser said:
DonFerrari said:

You are making it every time more restrictive right? You next you are going to ask for an example of this week? Pemalite already gave you some examples.

I've been asking this exact same thing for a long time now.  Also if Permalite gave me specific examples in the last 30 days, then I missed it.  Could you quote this post to me please?

That is because you decided to ask for the last 30 days after he gave you the link for some recent releases.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

I've been asking this exact same thing for a long time now.  Also if Permalite gave me specific examples in the last 30 days, then I missed it.  Could you quote this post to me please?

That is because you decided to ask for the last 30 days after he gave you the link for some recent releases.

Please quote this post.