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Who makes the most money?

Black Panther domestic and worldwide 2 3.64%
 
Avengers 3 domestic and worldwide 36 65.45%
 
Back Panther domestic Avengers worldwide 12 21.82%
 
Avengers domestic Black Panther worldwide 0 0%
 
Poor DC Comics 😢 5 9.09%
 
Total:55
Nymeria said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

It is, and black panther appears in infinity war bringing his fans along with him. 

All projections show infinity war winning which is I find this thread a bit mad. 

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/avengers-infinity-war-fandango-presale-marvel-1202750313/

It's presale tickets are more than the last 7 marvel movies combined, this includes Black panther of course.

He was in Civil War, which had the benefit of all those other heroes fans and yet his solo outing did far better now at $250+ million more in the US.

It is hard to overstate just how insane Black Panther success was when it beat everything else Marvel has done.  I think infinity War will smash the opening week doing $250 million, but then its legs will be the big question mark competing against Deadpool and Star Wars.

Black panther has done amazingly, it's the only movie I've watched in the cinema more than once. And so far is my favourite marvel movie. 

To compare him being in civil war vs him being in infinity war is pretty silly though. 
Domestically it'll be interesting, but worldwide there's no chance. 



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Nymeria said:

He was in Civil War, which had the benefit of all those other heroes fans and yet his solo outing did far better now at $250+ million more in the US.

It is hard to overstate just how insane Black Panther success was when it beat everything else Marvel has done.  I think infinity War will smash the opening week doing $250 million, but then its legs will be the big question mark competing against Deadpool and Star Wars.

Black panther has done amazingly, it's the only movie I've watched in the cinema more than once. And so far is my favourite marvel movie. 

To compare him being in civil war vs him being in infinity war is pretty silly though. 
Domestically it'll be interesting, but worldwide there's no chance. 

I 100% agree there



Hey, I made the thread and even I know that Avengers is going to win worldwide, easily. Partly due to certain countriess just not wanting to see a movie starring a mostly black cast.

 

Domestically, people were seeing bp alone, with their moms, taking poor kids to see it, dressing up, etc. In America, BP has the support of the mainstream audience but, amongst the black audience it was a must see! People even agreed to not watch a torrent version of it.



d21lewis said:

Hey, I made the thread and even I know that Avengers is going to win worldwide, easily. Partly due to certain countriess just not wanting to see a movie starring a mostly black cast.

 

Domestically, people were seeing bp alone, with their moms, taking poor kids to see it, dressing up, etc. In America, BP has the support of the mainstream audience but, amongst the black audience it was a must see! People even agreed to not watch a torrent version of it.

Black Panther did ~640 million internationally, that is better than Hulk (128), Captain America (193), Ant Man (339), Thor (268), Thor 2 (468), Doctor Strange (445), Captain America 2 (454), Iron Man (266), Iron Man 2 (311), Thor 3 (538), Spider-Man (545), Guardians (440), and Guardians 2 (473)

The only MCU films Black panther didn't beat Internationally were Iron Man 3, Civil War, and the Avengers 1 & 2. Three of those are massive team up movies.

I don't see how you can look at those numbers and state people outside the US hurt its success due to a dominant black cast.  People everywhere saw it in droves, it's just in the US it was staggering in success behind only Avatar and Star Wars Force Awakens in gross revenue.  That's truly mind boggling numbers.



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Nymeria said:
d21lewis said:

Hey, I made the thread and even I know that Avengers is going to win worldwide, easily. Partly due to certain countriess just not wanting to see a movie starring a mostly black cast.

 

Domestically, people were seeing bp alone, with their moms, taking poor kids to see it, dressing up, etc. In America, BP has the support of the mainstream audience but, amongst the black audience it was a must see! People even agreed to not watch a torrent version of it.

Black Panther did ~640 million internationally, that is better than Hulk (128), Captain America (193), Ant Man (339), Thor (268), Thor 2 (468), Doctor Strange (445), Captain America 2 (454), Iron Man (266), Iron Man 2 (311), Thor 3 (538), Spider-Man (545), Guardians (440), and Guardians 2 (473)

The only MCU films Black panther didn't beat Internationally were Iron Man 3, Civil War, and the Avengers 1 & 2. Three of those are massive team up movies.

I don't see how you can look at those numbers and state people outside the US hurt its success due to a dominant black cast.  People everywhere saw it in droves, it's just in the US it was staggering in success behind only Avatar and Star Wars Force Awakens in gross revenue.  That's truly mind boggling numbers.

It's a real thing. In China, Look at the international poster for 12 Years a Slave (90% Brad Pitt), The Force Awakens (I think Finn was totally removed) or even Black Panther. In some countries, Black people just aren't marketable. 



d21lewis said:
Nymeria said:

Black Panther did ~640 million internationally, that is better than Hulk (128), Captain America (193), Ant Man (339), Thor (268), Thor 2 (468), Doctor Strange (445), Captain America 2 (454), Iron Man (266), Iron Man 2 (311), Thor 3 (538), Spider-Man (545), Guardians (440), and Guardians 2 (473)

The only MCU films Black panther didn't beat Internationally were Iron Man 3, Civil War, and the Avengers 1 & 2. Three of those are massive team up movies.

I don't see how you can look at those numbers and state people outside the US hurt its success due to a dominant black cast.  People everywhere saw it in droves, it's just in the US it was staggering in success behind only Avatar and Star Wars Force Awakens in gross revenue.  That's truly mind boggling numbers.

It's a real thing. In China, Look at the international poster for 12 Years a Slave (90% Brad Pitt), The Force Awakens (I think Finn was totally removed) or even Black Panther. In some countries, Black people just aren't marketable. 

Then blame the studios for being racist. Cause posters don't change the film. BP is still going to do the same as the 3rd Thor film. It's not like a different poster (which they as have a version that looks exactly like the one everyone else got) changes that most of the cast is black in the film.  Or that Finn was a main character in TFA. Stop trying to see racism where there is none.

Nymeria said: 
ArchangelMadzz said: 

It is, and black panther appears in infinity war bringing his fans along with him. 

All projections show infinity war winning which is I find this thread a bit mad. 

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/avengers-infinity-war-fandango-presale-marvel-1202750313/

It's presale tickets are more than the last 7 marvel movies combined, this includes Black panther of course.

He was in Civil War, which had the benefit of all those other heroes fans and yet his solo outing did far better now at $250+ million more in the US.

It is hard to overstate just how insane Black Panther success was when it beat everything else Marvel has done.  I think infinity War will smash the opening week doing $250 million, but then its legs will be the big question mark competing against Deadpool and Star Wars.

I seriously doubt Solo is going to do much to stop this film. Deadpool is going to be the one to watch for. If it's a phoned in sequel, it's not going do much. But, if it's as good as the first one, then it'll definitely slow IW down some.



thismeintiel said:
d21lewis said:

It's a real thing. In China, Look at the international poster for 12 Years a Slave (90% Brad Pitt), The Force Awakens (I think Finn was totally removed) or even Black Panther. In some countries, Black people just aren't marketable. 

Then blame the studios for being racist. Cause posters don't change the film. BP is still going to do the same as the 3rd Thor film. It's not like a different poster (which they as have a version that looks exactly like the one everyone else got) changes that most of the cast is black in the film.  Or that Finn was a main character in TFA. Stop trying to see racism where there is none.

 

https://qz.com/1226449/a-torture-for-the-eyes-chinese-moviegoers-think-black-panther-is-too-black/



d21lewis said:
Nymeria said:

Black Panther did ~640 million internationally, that is better than Hulk (128), Captain America (193), Ant Man (339), Thor (268), Thor 2 (468), Doctor Strange (445), Captain America 2 (454), Iron Man (266), Iron Man 2 (311), Thor 3 (538), Spider-Man (545), Guardians (440), and Guardians 2 (473)

The only MCU films Black panther didn't beat Internationally were Iron Man 3, Civil War, and the Avengers 1 & 2. Three of those are massive team up movies.

I don't see how you can look at those numbers and state people outside the US hurt its success due to a dominant black cast.  People everywhere saw it in droves, it's just in the US it was staggering in success behind only Avatar and Star Wars Force Awakens in gross revenue.  That's truly mind boggling numbers.

It's a real thing. In China, Look at the international poster for 12 Years a Slave (90% Brad Pitt), The Force Awakens (I think Finn was totally removed) or even Black Panther. In some countries, Black people just aren't marketable. 

If Black Panther isn't marketable then I don't understand how it made so much money in this places that don't like movies with black people.

China (in millions)
Black Panther: 105
Hulk : 8
Ant Man: 105
Thor 2: 55
Doctor Strange: 109
Captain America 2: 115
Iron Man 2: 7
Thor 3: 112
Guardians: 86
Spider-Man: 116
Guardians 2: 100
Civil War: 180
Iron Man 3: 120
Avengers 2: 240
Avengers: 86

The trends I see here are
1. The movie grosses in China have grown significantly from Hulk (8) and Iron Man 2 (7) to today
2. Average Marvel solo film now grosses 100-120 million, Black Panther is close to other recent films like Thor 3, Spider-Man, or Doctor Strange
3. They love the big team up films like Civil War and Avengers



Infinity War, both domestic and worldwide.



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