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LethalP on 15 April 2018
ArchangelMadzz said:
LethalP said:

How is that?

You put "Only on PS4 or X1"

Then list games that can be bought and played on PC. 

If we're including games that can be played on PC than that PS4 list needs to be longer..

All of those are exclusive to PS4. I'm just throwing Xbox a bone by including UWP only games.



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VGPolyglot on 15 April 2018
LethalP said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

You put "Only on PS4 or X1"

Then list games that can be bought and played on PC. 

If we're including games that can be played on PC than that PS4 list needs to be longer..

All of those are exclusive to PS4. I'm just throwing Xbox a bone by including UWP only games.

Some games on your list aren't PS3 exclusives though, Uncharted 1-3, The Last of Us, God of War III and Heavy Rain all had PS4 releases.



TallSilhouette on 15 April 2018
LethalP said:
TallSilhouette said:
So many conditions to make this argument, to say nothing of the big time disparity...

My main point is games created from the ground up exclusively for the PS4 and Xbox One. Not games that are also on PC, Switch, Vita, PS3, 360, 3DS, whatever. Just PS4, see what I'm saying? The same criteria applies for the PS3 list too.

I used above 80 MC because to include 70's and 60's would make the lists too big, that's it. Even then, even if we did include everything, the same thing would apply but on a larger scale. The PS3 has had more full exclusives by far. That's the point.

And the time disparity?



JRPGfan on 15 April 2018
LethalP said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

You put "Only on PS4 or X1"

Then list games that can be bought and played on PC. 

If we're including games that can be played on PC than that PS4 list needs to be longer..

All of those are exclusive to PS4. I'm just throwing Xbox a bone by including UWP only games.

You shouldnt make rules for a list, but then make exceptions (for 1 but not the other).
If pc doesnt count for PS4, it shouldnt for xbox either.

So you should remove all the xbox side games that can also be played on pc,
or include all the PS4 games that also happend to be playable on (ps4+pc).

List wars arnt fair if the same rules dont apply to both sides.

 

LethalP said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
It's funny how you make conditions then completely ignore them

How is that?

You know Madzz has a point.
Keep list fair (if you make a set of rules for it, stick to them (see above)).

 

here:

LethalP said:

Games above 80 MC lets say, only on PS4 or X1, aren't remasters or remakes. What do we have?

PS4:

  • God Of War
  • Uncharted 4
  • Bloodborne
  • Horizon Zero Dawn
  • The Last Guardian
  • Infamous Second Son
  • Yakuza 6
  • Gravity Rush 2
  • Moss

X1:

  • Halo 5  *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Gears Of War 4 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Forza 6 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Forza 7 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Forza Horizon 3 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Sunset Overdrive
Last edited by JRPGfan - on 15 April 2018

LethalP on 15 April 2018
JRPGfan said:
LethalP said:

All of those are exclusive to PS4. I'm just throwing Xbox a bone by including UWP only games.

You shouldnt make rules for a list, but then make exceptions (for 1 but not the other).
If pc doesnt count for PS4, it shouldnt for xbox either.

So you should remove all the xbox side games that can also be played on pc,
or include all the PS4 games that also happend to be playable on (ps4+pc).

List wars arnt fair if the same rules dont apply to both sides.

 

LethalP said:

How is that?

You know Madzz has a point.
Keep list fair (if you make a set of rules for it, stick to them (see above)).

 

here:

LethalP said:

Games above 80 MC lets say, only on PS4 or X1, aren't remasters or remakes. What do we have?

PS4:

  • God Of War
  • Uncharted 4
  • Bloodborne
  • Horizon Zero Dawn
  • The Last Guardian
  • Infamous Second Son
  • Yakuza 6
  • Gravity Rush 2
  • Moss

X1:

  • Halo 5  *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Gears Of War 4 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Forza 6 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Forza 7 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Forza Horizon 3 *on pc right? not "only" xbox one.
  • Sunset Overdrive

Halo 5 is only on Xbox One. But yeah, it's Halo 5 and Sunset Overdrive above 80 MC. But this isn't about PS4 vs X1, it's PS4 vs PS3.



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Conina on 15 April 2018
LethalP said:

Games above 80 MC lets say, only on PS4 or X1, aren't remasters or remakes. What do we have?

PS4:

  • God Of War
  • Uncharted 4
  • Bloodborne
  • Horizon Zero Dawn
  • The Last Guardian
  • Infamous Second Son
  • Yakuza 6
  • Gravity Rush 2
  • Moss
  • Resogun / Heroes
  • Statik
  • Polybius
  • Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
  • Detroit: Beyond Human (next month)

Compare that to PS3:

  • Uncharted 2
  • Uncharted 1
  • Uncharted 3
  • The Last Of Us - 2013
  • LittleBigPlanet
  • LittleBigPlanet 2 - 2011
  • Metal Gear Solid 4
  • God Of War III
  • God Of War Ascension - 2013
  • Gran Turismo 5
  • Gran Turismo 6 - 2013
  • Journey - 2012
  • Killzone 2
  • Killzone 3 - 2011
  • Wipeout HD - Remaster / Remix
  • Demon's Souls
  • Ratchet & Clank Tools Of Destruction
  • Ratchet & Clank A Crack In Time
  • Resistance
  • Resistance 2
  • Resistance 3 - 2011
  • Heavy Rain
  • Infamous
  • Infamous 2 - 2011
  • Yakuza 5 - 2015
  • Motorstorm
  • Motorstorm Pacific Rift

PS3 only vs PS4 only is a complete blow out.
Last edited by Conina - on 15 April 2018

VGPolyglot on 15 April 2018
LethalP said:
JRPGfan said:

You shouldnt make rules for a list, but then make exceptions (for 1 but not the other).
If pc doesnt count for PS4, it shouldnt for xbox either.

So you should remove all the xbox side games that can also be played on pc,
or include all the PS4 games that also happend to be playable on (ps4+pc).

List wars arnt fair if the same rules dont apply to both sides.

 

You know Madzz has a point.
Keep list fair (if you make a set of rules for it, stick to them (see above)).

 

here:

Halo 5 is only on Xbox One. But yeah, it's Halo 5 and Sunset Overdrive above 80 MC. But this isn't about PS4 vs X1, it's PS4 vs PS3.

OK, if it's PS3 vs. PS4 then having The Last of Us, Uncharted 1-3, Journey, God of War III and Heavy Rain makes even less sense since the PS4 has those.



LudicrousSpeed on 15 April 2018

Whatever criteria you want to use, I agree. I’ve enjoyed hardly any MicroSony games. Luckily third party has been great.



Conina on 15 April 2018
VGPolyglot said:
LethalP said:

Halo 5 is only on Xbox One. But yeah, it's Halo 5 and Sunset Overdrive above 80 MC. But this isn't about PS4 vs X1, it's PS4 vs PS3.

OK, if it's PS3 vs. PS4 then having The Last of Us, Uncharted 1-3, Journey, God of War III and Heavy Rain makes even less sense since the PS4 has those.

We don't know which PS4 games will be available on PS5 (or other platforms) in the future...

So it makes more sense to compare the PS3 output of the first 4.5 years with the PS4 output of the first 4.5 years, no matter if some of the games got ported / remastered after that timeframe.



VGPolyglot on 15 April 2018
Conina said:
VGPolyglot said:

OK, if it's PS3 vs. PS4 then having The Last of Us, Uncharted 1-3, Journey, God of War III and Heavy Rain makes even less sense since the PS4 has those.

We don't know which PS4 games will be available on PS5 (or other platforms) in the future...

So it makes more sense to compare the PS3 output of the first 4.5 years with the PS4 output of the first 4.5 years, no matter if some of the games got ported / remastered after that timeframe.

Well, we don't know that, true, but we do know that some of the games he listed are out on the PS4 too so you can't list a PS3 vs. PS4 comparison and then have games on the PS3 list while omitting them on the PS4 list despite being on it as well.