TranceformerFX said:
Either way, I'm still sticking with 2019, with an outside chance of 2020.
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An outside chance? Do you honestly think Sony would shoot themselves in the foot by releasing the PS5 with Tsushima, Last of Us 2 and FF7 Remake still in the pipe? Those are system sellers, that would be so so dumb.
Do the math bro, a 2019 release date isnt gonna happen - no matter which viewpoint you take.
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You know what I find funny, bro, is people who keep saying "Sony would never" when talking about the PS5. It's like none of you guys even remember or look into gaming history, whether it comes to gaming releases and/or sales. Hell, even as far as this past gen. Let's take a look shall we.
3rd party PS1 releases in 2000, the year the PS2 launched - Vagrant Story, NFS: Porche Unleashed, The Misadventures of Tron Bonne (Mega Man Legends spinoff), MK:SF, Threads of Fate, Strider 2, Chrono Cross, DQ VII, Spider-Man, TH's Pro Skater 2, Vampire Hunter D, Destruction Derby Raw, Donald Duck: GQ, Mega Man Legends 2, Capcom vs SNK: M 2000, Incredible Crisis, The World Is Not Enough, FFIX, The Emperor's New Groove, TR Chronicles, 007 Racing, Batman Beyond: ROTJ, Harvest Moon, Disney's Aladdin: NR, Evil Dead: HTTK,
Sony PS1 releases in 2000 - Wild Arms 2, Spyro: YOTD, Crash Bash
The PS1 also sold ~21M in 1999, the year before the PS2 launched. With those sales and games coming out, why, oh why, would they even think about releasing a new console, yet?
Notable 3rd party PS2 releases in 2005, the year the PS3 was originally going to launch, and 2006 - Mercenaries: POD, Shadow of Rome, Xenosaga Ep II, FIFA Street, Tekken 5, Fight Night Rnd 2, DMC 3, MX vs ATV Unleashed, Timesplitters: FP, Dynasty Warriors 5, Splinter Cell: CT, Lego SW, Midnight Club 3, Psychonauts, Burnout Revenge, MK:SM, Indigo Prophecy, RE4, Soul Calibur 3, COD 2, SW Battlefront 2, Guitar Hero, NFS: MW, DQ VIII, Drakengard 2, MGS3: S, FFXII, KH 2, TR: Legends, Jaws Unleashed, Hitman: BM, DOC: FFVII, Disgaea 2, Xenosaga Ep III, Lego SW 2, Okami, Just Cause, Scarface, MK:A, Spyro: ANB, Bully, NFS:C, COD 3, Guitar Hero 2, TH Project 8
Sony PS2 releases in 2005 and 2006 - The Getaway: BM, MLB 2006, GOW, Rise of Kasai, Genji: DOTS, Sly 3, SOCOM 3, Jak X:CR, SOTC, Ratchet: Deadlocked, Ape Escape 3, Siren 2, MLB 06, SOCOM: CA, Ape Escape: MM
The PS2 also sold ~20M in 2005, the year before the PS3 launched. With those sales and games coming out, why, oh why, would they even think about releasing a new console, yet?
Notable 3rd party PS3 releases in 2013, the year the PS4 launched - DmC, Ni no Kuni, Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, MG Rising, TR, Bioshock: I, Injustice, Dragon's Dogma: DA, Metro: LL, Grid 2, Deadpool, Dynasty Warriors 8, Dragon's Crown, Saint's Row IV, Splinter Cell: BL, FF XIV, Diablo 3, Rayman Legends, GTA V, Disgaea D2, Lego Marvel, Batman: AO, AC IV: BF, BF4, COD: Ghosts, XCOM, NFS: Rivals, Minecraft, TWD: S2
Sony PS3 releases in 2013 - Sly Cooper: TIT, MLB 13, GOW: A, TLOU, Puppeteer, Rain, Beyond: TS, R&C: ITN, GT6
Now, the sales argument doesn't quite work for PS3, as sales were starting to decline due to the length of the gen. Though, using VGC's estimated sell-through of 13M+, we can guess shipments were still a respectable ~15M in 2012. Still, with all those games launching, why, oh why, would they even think to release a new console, yet?
The whole point is, games launching or the sales of a console means nothing when it comes to launching new HW. It has to do with launching when new HW is available for a decent leap in between gens, which it is. It also has to do with launching before the gen starts to drag on, so those who bought the console in 2013 aren't waiting around for 7+ years for their next piece of HW, as they may go elsewhere. All these people complaining that they haven't been in the gen for long aren't thinking of those who bought a PS4 at launch, or soon after, and didn't feel it necessary to upgrade to the Pro. In 2019, they will have already had their console for ~6 years. Many of them will be ready to move on. And those who bought a PS4 mid-gen can do so with the PS5, making them have the console for ~6 years, as well.