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DonFerrari said:
KrspaceT said:

'Token Version'.

Look, I'm American, and I frankly prefer their version to ours. America has a problem with people being allowed to not only spread genuinely false information, like anti-vaccination and everything involving the conspiracy nonsense that gets Sandy Hook and other school shooting victim parent's harassed, but speech that is just disgusting. The Westboro Baptist Church, Charlottesville...

'Too Much of a Good thing' is a saying for a reason. Cancer is too many cells going about destructively. That is what American Free Speech is having a problem with, cancerous speech. 

Christians are hardly any better. Try the same things here you might with ones died in the wool as much as these Muslims, and frankly both are fairly small amounts. Of course there are more Christians so the small amount is larger. 

'Proliferating'. Really? What are they to you, feral pigeons? 

Most Muslims aren't as aggressive as people paint them. You have extremists, just like Christianity. People just advertise the Muslim ones more.

I'm American. Europe's a shell because the Empires have fallen and the East is having to rejoin the wider world after the iron curtain. Honestly I'd have more concerns with the Eastern Europeans than the Muslims for the future of Europe: Thanks to the Soviets they gained a fondness for radical right wing behaviors, and it is easier to spread Fascism among Europeans than Islam. 

It's hardly just him. A lot of people can easily point that out, from political commenters to Linkara on Atop the Fourth Wall in his Holy Terror review. The Bible is filled with just as much aggressive commentary as the Qu'aran, if not more. It's just not 'Politically Correct' to point out the bible is nasty. 

Care to show the latest terrorist attacks made by christian jihadists?

A tad mullied by the fact that it is encompased by 'Right-Wing Terrorism', but we can generally agree that American Right Wing and Religion are tied together so especially in certain incidents they are linked.

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/dark-constant-rage-25-years-of-right-wing-terrorism-in-united-states

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/domestic-terrorism-white-supremacists-islamist-extremists_us_594c46e4e4b0da2c731a84df

https://sustainablesecurity.org/2017/09/12/what-drives-far-right-terrorism-in-the-united-states/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting

https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9827886/abortion-clinic-attacks-mapped



The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?

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Aeolus451 said:
Player2 said:

In my country, the current right wing government, who takes pride in not spending a single cent on retrieving the dead bodies of those killed during the right wing dictatorship of Franco, are the ones that have pushed laws like a Sun Tax or the nicknamed "Gag Law" that allows people to be fined up to 30K euros for doing evil things such as posting the image of a police car.

So no, more right wing isn't going to increase freedom.

I was referring to american conservatives or people like them. Anyone can be called conservative if they want to preserve their nation or culture. A socialist country could be called conservative if they try to preserve it as is.

Well, that'd kind of defeat the whole purpose of socialism.



KrspaceT said:
DonFerrari said:

Care to show the latest terrorist attacks made by christian jihadists?

A tad mullied by the fact that it is encompased by 'Right-Wing Terrorism', but we can generally agree that American Right Wing and Religion are tied together so especially in certain incidents they are linked.

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/dark-constant-rage-25-years-of-right-wing-terrorism-in-united-states

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/domestic-terrorism-white-supremacists-islamist-extremists_us_594c46e4e4b0da2c731a84df

https://sustainablesecurity.org/2017/09/12/what-drives-far-right-terrorism-in-the-united-states/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting

https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9827886/abortion-clinic-attacks-mapped

So basically because you don't have christian priests and the like asking for jihadism you want to use "right wing terrorism"? Nice that the KKK founded by Democrats are the second example of terrorism on your first link, while the first one is a single murder. Also to increase the numbers they include "incidents" from people that are against tax as extrem right (funny enough still haven't seem he talk about extrem left, probably he thinks that is something admirable and that commits no crimes or is violent). They create their own definition of terrorism to inflate the numbers. Another point is it points that ALL right wing movements are attached to criminal activity (do USA allows for slander? Unless he have proof of all movements of course) also for the purpose of the "study" anti-government is automatically considered right extremists.

Baffling yet "the worse" as ADL themselves called extrem right terrorist killed 9 people (even though one attack killed 168 people, why isn't this the worst terrorist I don't know)..  Another funny fact, over half of the attacks is caused by lone wolfers (so I would have a hard time tying that to someone leading them to do it).  only 65 of the 150 incidents were "successful" killing 255 and 603 injuries which pales in comparison to a single 9/11

If we pick just the protests and terrorism acts of BLM on a year I wouldn't be surprise if the numbers were quite high on frequency and damage.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

VGPolyglot said:
Aeolus451 said:

I was referring to american conservatives or people like them. Anyone can be called conservative if they want to preserve their nation or culture. A socialist country could be called conservative if they try to preserve it as is.

Well, that'd kind of defeat the whole purpose of socialism.

What happens when you achieve everything you wanted as a country or close to it then some people want to change it? You become a conservative and try to preserve it. The labels are not so important. You have to keep the meanings in mind. 



Aeolus451 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, that'd kind of defeat the whole purpose of socialism.

What happens when you achieve everything you wanted as a country or close to it then some people want to change it? You become a conservative and try to preserve it. The labels are not so important. You have to keep the meanings in mind. 

Well, if a socialist revolution achieved everything it wanted, then there'd be no country as the state would have no more use.



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VGPolyglot said:
Aeolus451 said:

What happens when you achieve everything you wanted as a country or close to it then some people want to change it? You become a conservative and try to preserve it. The labels are not so important. You have to keep the meanings in mind. 

Well, if a socialist revolution achieved everything it wanted, then there'd be no country as the state would have no more use.

Still if a bunch of capitalists or state lovers moved there and started trying to "progress" it to a capitalist state the communists wanting things to keep the same would be trying to conserve the status quo and would be conservatives... and I hardly think you would think they are bad people.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, if a socialist revolution achieved everything it wanted, then there'd be no country as the state would have no more use.

Still if a bunch of capitalists or state lovers moved there and started trying to "progress" it to a capitalist state the communists wanting things to keep the same would be trying to conserve the status quo and would be conservatives... and I hardly think you would think they are bad people.

They wouldn't be called progressives though, they'd be considered reactionaries/counter-revolutionaries, as those who are against it would be trying to revert the changes being made.



PwerlvlAmy said:
Good stuff. Good to have a voice on both sides of the isle, pro trump and anti trump. Need both sides speaking otherwise its just a meaningless echo chamber.

There are a lot more sides than two.  This two-party, left/right spectrum thing is some BS that Americans buy in to that doesn't seem to exist in most of the rest of the developed world.  It really speaks poorly of us.  



VGPolyglot said:
DonFerrari said:

Still if a bunch of capitalists or state lovers moved there and started trying to "progress" it to a capitalist state the communists wanting things to keep the same would be trying to conserve the status quo and would be conservatives... and I hardly think you would think they are bad people.

They wouldn't be called progressives though, they'd be considered reactionaries/counter-revolutionaries, as those who are against it would be trying to revert the changes being made.

Sure sure, we need to make the names in a way to use bad terms for what is considered right wing, capitalist, etc.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

VAMatt said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
Good stuff. Good to have a voice on both sides of the isle, pro trump and anti trump. Need both sides speaking otherwise its just a meaningless echo chamber.

There are a lot more sides than two.  This two-party, left/right spectrum thing is some BS that Americans buy in to that doesn't seem to exist in most of the rest of the developed world.  It really speaks poorly of us.  

Still in Brazil our 50 parties is even worse situation and like 45 or more of them are to the center left to left.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."