dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Soundwave said:
I wouldn't be surprised if immortality is that far off to be honest. Maybe 2-3 generations away. Genetic engineering, nano tech, gene modification, brain to computer interfacing are the first baby steps towards it just like the giant room sized computers of the 1950s/60s were the first steps towards the pocket sized super computers everyone has today.
If you have two ugly people (equally ugly) and one decides to accept they're ugly while the other one decides to believe they're beautiful, it wouldn't surprise me if the one who has chosen to deny reality would be happier. That doesn't make them good looking though, lol. One's POV can determine one's happiness, we know that, that doesn't mean the POV is necessarily correct.
"Western countries" are happier because they generally have higher standards of living from scientific/technological/medical progress and less violent upheaval recently. But even that is a fairly recent development, Europe was probably the most violent place on earth for several hundred years culminating with World War II which almost obliterated the continent. Post World War II is the only time its known relative peace and a technological society has sprung up, but in that era of "happiness" Europe has also become dramatically less religious.
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what you say could come is ''live extension'' or better "body modification - brain preservation'', matter will always be vulnerable, don't you know
beauty is just as subjective as reality, everyone lives in his own ''reality'', the point of life is happiness, not beauty or accepting whatever reality comes with the times
anything that makes you happy is real enough, same with Christianity, if you feel it, it must be real
it's not just the recent years, Europe has always had some of the higher standards of living from scientific/technological/medical progress because their faith allowed them to progress through the years and invest their time in things that could actually make other's lives better and happier
wars are just the making of a few power-thirsty, brainless individuals who manipulate the weak souls, leading them to self-destruction, they are not as relevant as you think, Africa had the fewest wars and China the most, yet the Christian countries are much happier
I wouldn't say ''dramatically'' but yeah, watch Christian numbers drop while suicides and murder attacks are already getting more and more frequent, personal psychologists and psychotherapists will be swimming in gold, talk about the cure of the spirit, in my view happiness will start to drop, wait until the cycle comes around and Christianity will be the new fashion
regarding war, Christian prophesies from 30 years ago say that while Western countries are moving away from Christianity, WW3 is inevitable, and every detail so far is sadly, spot-on...
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A few points:
1.) An airplane would also be impossible for someone in the 17th century to make sense of, in 300-400 years who knows what types of technology humans will possess. The ability to modify DNA/add nano cells/cybernetics could effectively eliminate the concept of death or delay it by hundreds, even thousands of years.
2.) "Happiness polls" are largely a load of crap IMO (how exactly do you measure it? Is there a "happy meter"?). It's a recent survey, and yes according to those surveys Nordic European nations like Denmark, Sweden, etc. tend to top those polls. However those counties are actually becoming far less religious, so I guess you could also say less religion leads to more happiness. A country like the USA which is more religious scores low on those happiness polls (relative to Western European countries).
The most pious, "religious" Christian countries today are actually places like Latin America (Brazil, Mexico, etc.) and places like the Philippines not the West anymore. These aren't the "happiest" places though. Eastern Europe is more religious than Western Europe, they're also less happy.
3.) Well beauty may be subjective but I'll use another analogy -- Santa Claus makes kids happy too. Kids that believe in Santa may well be happier than kids who don't. It doesn't mean Santa Claus is real.
4.) Large scale war doesn't need a "prophecy", humans fight over dumb shit all the time and will do so again. There I just made an amazing prophecy.
Ultimately people are free to believe whatever they want. I don't have a problem with it unless it starts to hurt other people or becomes a danger to that person themselves.