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Forums - Sales - Global Hardware 17 March 2018

Mar1217 said:
quickrick said:
I'm not understanding why switch numbers are close to US in europe. based on nintendo own graph NA sales are on another level vs europe.

It still VGC estimates, don't be surprised when they'll need to do reajustement.

I understand it's just estimates just interested in seeing why they think europe is near NA numbers, when nintendo own graph suggests they are 2 million ahead or near that.



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Mar1217 said:
quickrick said:
I'm not understanding why switch numbers are close to US in europe. based on nintendo own graph NA sales are on another level vs europe.

It still VGC estimates, don't be surprised when they'll need to do reajustement.

Hss it occured to anyone that maybe switch sales in EU are holding steady while their sales in NA are declining?

I mean we know switch is most likely not doing in EU as well as it does in NA.... and we have NPD data for-NA so at least numbers for there are close to accurate.



Intrinsic said:
Mar1217 said:

It still VGC estimates, don't be surprised when they'll need to do reajustement.

Hss it occured to anyone that maybe switch sales in EU are holding steady while their sales in NA are declining?

I mean we know switch is most likely not doing in EU as well as it does in NA.... and we have NPD data for-NA so at least numbers for there are close to accurate.

nintendo graph shows around 5.5 million for NA, vs around 3.5 million for europe as of jan 21.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

Yeah but that has been the case since the Switch has came out which was a year ago. So to pick this week to say PS4 leading WW but not dominating just seemed......well random. Again especially since no one had said anything about it dominating. Again i was not attacking you or anything it just seemed a little odd to me when I saw it that's all.

I think you're overreacting slightly, but I digress

Yeah wa sno big deal just something I saw that's all lol. You are good with me as always!

bonzobanana said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

Yeah but that has been the case since the Switch has came out which was a year ago. So to pick this week to say PS4 leading WW but not dominating just seemed......well random. Again especially since no one had said anything about it dominating. Again i was not attacking you or anything it just seemed a little odd to me when I saw it that's all.

PS4 has a huge established user-base approaching 80 million compared to 16 million and is consistently outselling the Switch on a month by month basis and at this point we don't know which console will slow first but the gap between them currently is increasing slowly and favouring the ps4. 

However we don't know how Nintendo will pursue sales as the console matures. They pretty much didn't bother with the wii u holding it at a high retail price to the end with a drastic reduction in console sales, a nosedive. Will Nintendo be more aggressive with pricing this time or will they be happy to maintain a very high profit margin but lower hardware sales? Will online charges effect sales? Will nvidia prevent a price reduction? Will a portable hybrid competitor materialise from Sony or Microsoft?

It's going to be interesting to watch it unfold anyway. Currently though it feels like ps4 is dominating but then I am viewing it from a European perspective.

 

 

 

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quickrick said:
Intrinsic said:

Hss it occured to anyone that maybe switch sales in EU are holding steady while their sales in NA are declining?

I mean we know switch is most likely not doing in EU as well as it does in NA.... and we have NPD data for-NA so at least numbers for there are close to accurate.

nintendo graph shows around 5.5 million for NA, vs around 3.5 million for europe as of jan 21.

I don't get what you are getting at. I'm assuming you are saying that numbers in EU are overtracked?

While that may be true.... if the weekly average in NA has dropped then what i was saying still stands, maybe numbers in EU are holding while NA are dropping.

As oppoaed to a generalized drop.



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quickrick said:
I'm not understanding why switch numbers are close to US in europe. based on nintendo own graph NA sales are on another level vs europe.

Shipments as of Dec 31

Americas-5.94m

Others-5.20m (87.5% of Americas)

 

This weeks sales

NA-76k

EU-63k

JP-52k

ROTW-32k

 

ROTW includes regions that fall in Americas & Others so lets split it right down the middle.

 

NA+1/2 ROTW=92k

EU+1/2 ROTW=79k (85.8% of Americas)

 

 

Perhaps its overtracked in EU, but i doubt its by a huge amount.



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zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:
I'm not understanding why switch numbers are close to US in europe. based on nintendo own graph NA sales are on another level vs europe.

Shipments as of Dec 31

Americas-5.94m

Others-5.20m (87.5% of Americas)

 

This weeks sales

NA-76k

EU-63k

JP-52k

ROTW-32k

 

ROTW includes regions that fall in Americas & Others so lets split it right down the middle.

 

NA+1/2 ROTW=92k

EU+1/2 ROTW=79k (85.8% of Americas)

 

 

Perhaps its overtracked in EU, but i doubt its by a huge amount.

if we look at last year sales up to jan 21,  japan sales seem to be better then europe, the graph clearly shows japan has a lead, even with massive shortages in japan, so based on this graph europe sales should be around 40-50k a week.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180201_2e.pdf



quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Shipments as of Dec 31

Americas-5.94m

Others-5.20m (87.5% of Americas)

 

This weeks sales

NA-76k

EU-63k

JP-52k

ROTW-32k

 

ROTW includes regions that fall in Americas & Others so lets split it right down the middle.

 

NA+1/2 ROTW=92k

EU+1/2 ROTW=79k (85.8% of Americas)

 

 

Perhaps its overtracked in EU, but i doubt its by a huge amount.

if we look at last year sales up to jan 21,  japan sales seem to be better then europe, the graph clearly shows japan has a lead, even with massive shortages in japan, so based on this graph europe sales should be around 40-50k a week.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180201_2e.pdf

I dont see any clear lead from Japan in those graphs, they look basically the same.

 

Like I said, Others shipments were 87.5% of Americas shipments so if Europe is overtracked by a large margin than that likely means the non-European regions that fall under "Others" are undertracked.



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quickrick said:
Mar1217 said:

It still VGC estimates, don't be surprised when they'll need to do reajustement.

I understand it's just estimates just interested in seeing why they think europe is near NA numbers, when nintendo own graph suggests they are 2 million ahead or near that.

Momentum probably increased in Europe. VGC has Switch's EU baseline at around 70k weekly for January and no doubt those numbers have been adjusted by now. 



PortisheadBiscuit said:
quickrick said:

I understand it's just estimates just interested in seeing why they think europe is near NA numbers, when nintendo own graph suggests they are 2 million ahead or near that.

Momentum probably increased in Europe. VGC has Switch's EU baseline at around 70k weekly for January and no doubt those numbers have been adjusted by now. 

That doesnt make much sense, they typically adjust numbers when an official announcement of sales is made but we dont get that for most of the European countries.



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