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DeletedAccount5 on 19 March 2018

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Acevil on 19 March 2018
quickrick said:
Acevil said:

You wouldn't say that saying falling off the cliff, which is the beginning of this discussion would not fit that criteria. I am more arguing semantics, I am not saying for anyone to be banned. 

I ever said falling off a cliff in this discussion, i said losing momentum thats about it, in fact i have already admitted i was wrong about the falling of the cliff comment last npd and in this.  

I am talking about the initial spark that caused situation which November NPD thread. 



 

flashfire926 on 19 March 2018

flashfire926 said:

If you were confident in your claim you would have taken the bet, not opted out. This is very telling.

i'm confident, but we are talking a bet that will last like 4 years.

Doesnt matter, I'm not going anywhere. If you're right, I'll take the L in four years. How does that sound? Loser has to state that they last in their signature FOREVER.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

kirby007 on 19 March 2018
JRPGfan said:
Acevil said:

Wouldn't you also ban him for making statements like that since it would fall under flamebaiting aka "posting" or note on a Web site discussion forum, an online bulletin board, a Usenet newsgroup, or other public forum that is intended to elicit the extremely strong responses characteristic of flaming and active public discussions.

Thats just it, he isnt doing any of that.
While nintendo fans are clearly bullying him here.
But mod teams seem biased against him and are allowing the bullying to keep on going instead of punishing these nintendo fans jumping on him.

Its simple he claimed momentum dropped of reasons were giving that disprove that statement isnt true.. if he had simply said im wrong this isnt a momentum drop due to the reason provided we wouldnt be here. Frankly that he is ignoring the logical reasons could be seen as bait and run



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nemo37 on 19 March 2018
Lawlight said:
nemo37 said:

I have been looking at the Best Buy charts daily and Switch has been consistently on top since the first week of March. In fact, as of the time of this comment the Neon Switch SKU is at the top of the charts on Best Buy. Beyond that, with regards to the second SKUs for all consoles (by which I mean the second highest selling SKUs for each platform), the Switch Grey is the best selling second SKU for the consoles. 

As you can tell from my comment I said my prediction is based on the system " toping charts on Amazon and Best Buy and improving its position at GameStop". On Best Buy and Amazon the system has been topping charts, on GameStop it is not at the top of the charts (as both you and I correctly stated) but its position has improved. This means two major retailers have Switch in front with regards to chart position (a reverse of February where two out of the three, Best Buy and GameStop, had PS4 in front and where PS4 improved its chart positioning on Amazon). 

Looking at Gamestop more closely of the top selling new consoles, the top selling SKU is a PS4 Pro pre-order that will not be released until April. The second SKU is a glacier white PS4 Pro which is currently being sold exclusively at GameStop. The third SKU is a Monster Hunter GameStop exclusive PS4 Pro SKU that has been out of stock since February so its positioning is retrospective. There is also one Xbox One S Sea of Thieves SKU that is available for pre-order that The Switch SKUs and bundles that trailed both the PS4 Pro and Slim and many of the Xbox One S bundles in late-January and February have now overcome the Slim and the currently available Xbox One S SKUs. Considering that NPD does not count pre-orders towards a month's platform sales, I think Switch is in a good position (as of right now anyways) to take March. Two caveats are the NPD tracking period potentially favouring Xbox One and of course there is still one week of March left so things can change.

While I expect March to go to Switch (barring those caveats I mentioned being a factor), I am expecting PS4 to come out on top in April based on how strong pre-orders for the God of War PS4 Pro have been (I think this will be another game that will not only bring more players into the eco-system through the PS4 Slim but also push more existing owners to upgrade to Pro for that game). I am still undecided about my predictions regarding Xbox One and Switch in April with regards to which one will come in second and third place in April.

Can you post a link to the best buy best sellers?

Sure thing:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?cp=1&searchType=search&st=console&_dyncharset=UTF-8&id=pcat17071&type=page&sc=Global&nrp=&sp=-bestsellingsort%20skuidsaas&qp=&list=n&af=true&iht=y&usc=All%20Categories&ks=960&keys=keys

 

I think I know why QuickRick's method is not getting the same results. He is sorting by both "top rating" and "Best Selling". My link uses the search term "console" and sorted by "best selling" and does not include "top rating" since that is not relevant.



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JRPGfan on 19 March 2018
BlackBeauty said:
jason1637 said:

 

The Wii U started off really well and ended up flopping. By Wii U 2.0 I don't mean it's gonna sell 13m but that it's gonna less close to that if Nintendo doesn't react quick.  The PS4 and Xbox One both had huge boost this month compared to the last while switch was basically flat MoM. Also Switch sales have been slowing down WW. If Nintendo doesn't do a bundle or price cut I can't see the Switch becoming irrelevant this year.

Also I don't think Switch will sell 70m like 3DS. If Nintendo doesn't react to the loss in momentum I see 16-25m but if they do react I think it will do 60m.

The Switch is currently already close to 20 million. Just wait for their April sales briefing.

so that point is moot

It should be close to 40 million by holiday this year.

Frontpage has it at 15,2m.

Thats not really close to 20m.
Also even if the switch does sell 20m this year, it wont reach 40m by holidays this year.

Im not saying its impossible,... but its highly unlikely it ll be at 40m by the holidays.



quickrick on 19 March 2018
kirby007 said:
JRPGfan said:

Thats just it, he isnt doing any of that.
While nintendo fans are clearly bullying him here.
But mod teams seem biased against him and are allowing the bullying to keep on going instead of punishing these nintendo fans jumping on him.

Its simple he claimed momentum dropped of reasons were giving that disprove that statement isnt true.. if he had simply said im wrong this isnt a momentum drop due to the reason provided we wouldnt be here. Frankly that he is ignoring the logical reasons could be seen as bait and run

Iol then every one would be banned, almost everyone makes statements like that after a weak month, and switch had a very weak February. 



Acevil on 19 March 2018
JRPGfan said:
BlackBeauty said:

The Switch is currently already close to 20 million. Just wait for their April sales briefing.

so that point is moot

It should be close to 40 million by holiday this year.

Frontpage has it at 15,2m.

Thats not really close to 20m.
Also even if the switch does sell 20m this year, it wont reach 40m by holidays this year.

Im not saying its impossible,... but its highly unlikely it ll be at 40m by the holidays.

I agree with this, but doesn't make Jason's statement still outlandish you have to admit. 



 

kirby007 on 19 March 2018
quickrick said:
kirby007 said:

Its simple he claimed momentum dropped of reasons were giving that disprove that statement isnt true.. if he had simply said im wrong this isnt a momentum drop due to the reason provided we wouldnt be here. Frankly that he is ignoring the logical reasons could be seen as bait and run

Iol then every one would be banned, almost everyone makes statements like that after a weak month, and switch had a very weak February. 

If had a weak februari if you ignore logic yes



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JRPGfan on 19 March 2018
Acevil said:
JRPGfan said:

Frontpage has it at 15,2m.

Thats not really close to 20m.
Also even if the switch does sell 20m this year, it wont reach 40m by holidays this year.

Im not saying its impossible,... but its highly unlikely it ll be at 40m by the holidays.

I agree with this, but doesn't make Jason's statement still outlandish you have to admit. 

I know Jansons statement was outlandish.
But so was blackbeauty's.
I quote her(him?), but your right, Jasons was just as bad.


It just seems wrong to quote someone saying something outlandish, and then reply with something outlandish too.