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Alkibiádēs on 16 March 2018
Lawlight said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Celeste has an 8.2 userscore on the most reviewed version (but no surprise you always cherry pick information to suit your goals).

Since when are we using userscores on metacritic anyway? They hold no value as anyone can give a score to a game, even if you didn't buy it.

Besides, there are many indie games that outsold Bloodborne, why are you using that game as an example?

And to answer your questions: there are a lot of gaming outlets, not all of them get paid by big publishers, but the one's that do are the outlets who declare "GOTY".

Did you ever take a look who's behind The Game Awards (the GOTY award that receives the most attention)? I'm quoting wikipedia here: 

 "Instead, Keighley worked with several entities within the industry, including console hardware manufacturers Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, and several large publishers, to financially back and craft a new awards show, the Game Awards, with Spike's blessing.[6] Keighley was able to secure space for hosting the live event. Without a broadcaster, Keighley and the entities agreed to stream the live show on the consoles' networks and on Valve Corporation's Steam service, as to be able to reach a much larger audience than Spike TV previously had.[5] Since then, Keighley has been able to secure multiple streaming services around the globe for the show, which has been a move appreciated by several of the Game Awards' partners since the show's inception."[7]

No, I'm just comparing scores of the games on the same platform - the PS4.

Many indies outsold Bloodborne but, really, not many. It's just an example. Pick Uncharted 4 if you wish.

There's a good reason why Sony doesn't showcase indies anymore and focus on the bigger games - that strategy helped them looking at the PS4's success. And here are some interesting stats for you:

https://www.mcvuk.com/development/average-indie-game-steam-sales-halve-yearonyear

And I'm talking about the individual outlets, not The Game Awards. They might score indie games higher (because they are in their own category) but they're not good enough to win awards.

What a load of nonsense. Indie games do win awards by the way, you can google it if you don't believe me. Minecraft (before it was bought by Microsoft), PUBG, Rocket League and Subnautica are all indie games.

These are some of the biggest and most influential games in the industry.

And yes, many indie games outsold Bloodborne and then some: Undertale, Stardew Valley, Rocket League, Minecraft, Subnautica, Super Meat Boy, Bastion, Limbo, Inside, Don't Starve & Don't Starve Together, The Binding of Isaac, etc.

Steam has a visibility problem because of all the crap they let through, but that says nothing about the quality of good indie games.

Fact of the matter is that those big AAA franchises are all becoming stagnant and they lack innovation, for the most part.

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Megiddo on 16 March 2018
Jranation said:
Megiddo said:

This thread's title inherently invokes a console war. A dime-a-dozen 2-d platformer has 10 times more preorders on the Switch than the PS4. I mean, the obviously reaction is a "Duh!" That's the Switch's bread-and-butter. It's hardly thread-worthy particularly since the game looks so bad. Make it about Owlboy as that's an actually good 2-d platformer. I'll be curious to see how it does on PS4 in a few months.

How else would you name this thread? Because that is what the Tweet is saying. 

I wouldn't make a thread about this at all. If there was a thread for every single time X game did better on Y system than Z system it'd inundate the forums. Thank goodness it's only one section of fans that does this.

 

@KimPossible Thanks for the info. I come from the stone age of BBS and Usenet where it was a given that everyone discussing a thread would be actively reading it. I guess that is no longer the norm.



KLAMarine on 16 March 2018
RolStoppable said:
Megiddo said:
Jranation said:

How else would you name this thread? Because that is what the Tweet is saying. 

I wouldn't make a thread about this at all. If there was a thread for every single time X game did better on Y system than Z system it'd inundate the forums. Thank goodness it's only one section of fans that does this.

 

@KimPossible Thanks for the info. I come from the stone age of BBS and Usenet where it was a given that everyone discussing a thread would be actively reading it. I guess that is no longer the norm.

Welcome to 2018 where a discussion can be more easily traced and its line of reasoning understood.



CrazyGamer2017 on 16 March 2018

Well considering how tremendously successful the PS4 is, this means that people who own a PS4 are mostly not interested in the game. I mean if PS4 users were interested in this game as they are in very successful PS4 games, sales of this game on PS4 would bury those on Switch at least for a while until Switch's sales catch up with PS4's.

So it's not so much Switch's pre-orders of this game doing well as it is PS4 pre-orders of this game doing bad which is a pity cause this game seems to be alright, not the greatest looking game ever but still okay.



collint0101 on 16 March 2018

A lot of people on PlayStation are only willing to play indies if they're on ps+ while nintendo fans are actually willing to pay for them. There really is 0 reason for a switch version of anything to outsell the PS4 version but a good chunk of the Sony audience expects stuff like this to be given to them for free



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Cloudman on 17 March 2018

Dang, that game does look like it could be fun. I'd consider getting it as well.



 

              

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okr on 17 March 2018
collint0101 said:
A lot of people on PlayStation are only willing to play indies if they're on ps+ while nintendo fans are actually willing to pay for them. There really is 0 reason for a switch version of anything to outsell the PS4 version but a good chunk of the Sony audience expects stuff like this to be given to them for free

This.



GoOnKid on 17 March 2018
ironmanDX said:
11 copies sold confirmed?

At least!



Miyamotoo on 17 March 2018
collint0101 said:
A lot of people on PlayStation are only willing to play indies if they're on ps+ while nintendo fans are actually willing to pay for them. There really is 0 reason for a switch version of anything to outsell the PS4 version but a good chunk of the Sony audience expects stuff like this to be given to them for free

0 reason!? I gave you one reason, full handheld mode is game changer for some people, and actual plenty of people want to play this type of Indie games in full handheld mode. Also thats reason why more-less all 3rd party games are selling quite good on Switch if we know thats only 1 year on market, and espacily better than on past Nintendo platforms.

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Shaqazooloo0 on 17 March 2018

I'm planning on getting the game eventually. Good for the devs though!