Machiavellian said:
Who said its a basic feature. This is your opinion. If the game is charged a budget price, and they have a persistent online world which does cost money to maintain, then it's not your typical single player game. Its your opinion that the game is a MGSV mod/asset flip but you really have no clue how much development, cost and resources has gone into the production of the game. You make an assumption without ever playing the game and give it off as fact. My opinion is based on if the game meets the fun requirement and is a good game at its 40 dollar price. Here is my point. Game companies can and will try many different things to earn that little extra cash for games, we as consumers vote with our dollars. If the game doesn't meet the required fun for the price and features, then it will fail and then game company will go and either do something better, refine the price to feature point or go under. I do not get wound up over this stuff probably because I have played games since pong. Everything is an evolution and only the strong survive. |
Weapon loadouts and save slots ARE a basic feature in any online MP/SP game, fact, not opinion. If it weren't a basic feature, companies wouldn't be putting them in games for decades for free. LOL, you just lost all credibility when you said save slots aren't a basic feature. Next, I expect you to say guns aren't a basic feature in any shooter. Also, way to squirm around the fact that the game in no way NEEDS to be always online and that's entirely the reason why they CHOSE to limit save and weapon slots and charge a ridiculous price for them. Attitudes like yours are the reason why they'll be charging us a dollar entry fee for every multiplayer match in a few years time.
It's also not an opinion that this game is an asset flip/mod of MGSV. Literally all they did was shift around assets from TPP, how in God's name is that NOT an asset flip/mod?
Ultr said:
Well you can just buy another pokemon game to do that already no? |
You'd need another game and platform so to do that in Sun/Moon you'd need another copy of the exact game and another 3DS which would cost you around 160-200 quid or so which not many people would spend just to cheat in competitive play.
This should really impact the hundreds of people who were stupid enough to buy this trash.
On top of the fact that the game is utter rubbish, this extra shit really will effect their enjoyment of it.
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Ka-pi96 said:
You'd still require a second console and copy of the game, regardless of whether they're yours or a friends. You still do it that way now, trading back and forth to get 6 Mewtwos. You have to pay extra to do that now and if the game allowed multiple saves then you'd still need to pay extra in order to do that. There's literally no difference. You're just being hypocritical by criticising Konami for it but not GameFreak. And by the way, I'm not ok with only having one save file in Pokemon full stop. I get attached to my Pokemon and don't want to delete them all just to play through the game again. And I have no interest whatsoever in the multiplayer and they usually have very little end game content, so the only option is to delete my perfectly good save file and all of my Pokemon just to enjoy the game again which is quite frankly ridiculous. And even if I did like the multiplayer, trading back and forth to acquire multiple unique legendaries is as I mentioned still perfectly possible, and by the way is neither an exploit nor a cheat. As far as I'm aware and kind of competitive Pokemon multiplayer usually bans legendaries anyway, as well as having rules concerning having duplicates of Pokemon too, so you wouldn't even gain anything from replaying the game to get multiple legendaries. Oh and actually, let's not forget that Pokemon games (with the exception of gen 3) always have options to transfer your Pokemon from an old gen to the new games, so if you do that you'll be picking up multiple copies of "unique" legendary Pokemon anyway, 1 from your old game and another from your new game. So the whole "people would "exploit" multiple saves to trade themselves multiple versions of one off Pokemon" argument really doesn't hold any weight whatsoever. |
Well, since pokemon bank it has been insanely easy to make a new save. Just transfer all your pokemon to the bank super quick and create a new game. I also have been annoyed by no multiple saves. I'm not a huge end game pokemon guy. I do some breeding/iv/ect stuff and max out maybe a dozen new pokemon each gen, but then I get bored and want to replay the game with new pokemon or a max iv bred pokemon or something.
Yet it was a pain in the ass to do it. Had to trade to a trusted friend or oneself on a second console and trade back. With bank it made it super easy. Though in both cases, your old game is gone. So to go back to end game stuff I need to beat the entire game again.
THis should all be remedied on the switch. Seeing as games ask you (unless you turned it off) what user is playing the game, you should be able to create multiple users on your switch and thus even if the game only has one save you can still technically have multiple pokemon saves on your system. Thus you can have your 100% complete end game/farming/ect save and you can have other saves for fun nuzlokes, wonderlockes, ect.
| Dgc1808 said: I'm not bothered by this at all. EDIT: Also, did one of the past Metal Gear Online games also require you to pay for additional saves? |
No other option? You can play Breath of the Wild on as many accounts as your heart desires to create with a different save file on each. You don't have to buy extra save slots, and certainly not "have to buy the entire game over again" as you imply.
It's Konami. What did you expect?
The people who bought the game were dumb to expect anything different.
well i have seen it in free to play games, not that I was going to buy this game but I will look to avoid anything from Konami period. At best for me, they will be some of the used games in the bargain bin buy, well that is if the servers are working to actually play the game.
I remember the days of video games, and not game services. That was a nice time and didnt even know it then.
Wyrdness said:
You'd need another game and platform so to do that in Sun/Moon you'd need another copy of the exact game and another 3DS which would cost you around 160-200 quid or so which not many people would spend just to cheat in competitive play. |
But its possible and another guy in the thread just pointed to the way you can use a pokemon bank or something to do that. So they are just trying to bank in on the additional pokemon game sales.
Its okay that they do that its just the hypocrisy has to be pointed out.
Ka-pi96 said:
Don't you have to pay for Pokemon bank though? So you still have to pay extra to do something that's available as standard in pretty much every other game. |
Pokémon bank is $5.00 a year.
I would consider that to be a bargain for all that it does.
1. It's a cloud save that keeps your pokemon forever. Even when subscription runs out, when you repay the pokemon are all there still. Trust me, this happened to me.
2. It bridges gaps between a ton of generations. Pokémon bank has allowed gamers to bring their pokemon from the Gameboy all the way to the 3DS. And think of future. not all games work great between another. Lets say your playing pokemon black and then the new pokemon stars comes out or something on switch. It might not be easy to transfer pokemon between the two. But its easy to pop them into bank and get them from there. It's agreat middle ground between different systems.
3. Convenience/sorting. There are 700+ pokemon. I don't think fans of the series like transfering pokemon from each generation forward each time. That is a pain. Nice to just keep all the pokemon you have in one spot and if you ever do want them pop them over into the game.
So will I forgo 1 trip a year to McDonalds for the super convenience of pokemon bank? Yes I will.
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