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CosmicSex said:
Insidb said:

I think we have another TLJ on our hands, because foreign markets will likely be unkind to this film.

We all know why.

Wait why?  So far they have been modest, Earning just over the domestic gross.  Also, the critical reviews everywhere seem to be generally more positive than TLJ.  

The race problem: as progressive as America is, there has already been racial backlash. 

In my experience, many other regions have considerably worse relations with PoC.



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DialgaMarine said:
CosmicSex said:

Okay so you guys have to accept that everyone is different and you can't define people's reasons for enjoying something.  I read your comments and shake my head like 'who actually thinks about these things'  then I realize that you are different.  You are groomed to question peoples reasoning and have to hold it up to what you think they should like or want to see.   And thats okay.  You think differently.    Just apply that to folks who really think that way.  A young business lady in my town got into comics and superheros after watching Xmen and seeing Storm.  To her, she never saw people like herself in the genre and that gave her a greater appreciation for the genre overall.  While I might not get it or experience the same thing, I recognize it as a valid thought process and perspective. Likewise, if I dismissed you being flabergassed, It would be because I am too close minded to accept that you have a different perspective. 

All is well :)

I’m just saying that there have been many films in the past that featured lead roles that weren’t straight white males, and many of those have seen box office success. To pretend like Black Panther and Wonder Woman are these brand new phenomenon is to continue the false rhetoric that the west are mostly horrible racist bigots, and we need to constantly have that hammered into our skulls until we feel guilty and become submissive. Here’s my 2 cents: enjoy a film for what it is. If the film features non-straight white male leads, and that helps others enjoy it, cool. However, that doesn’t need to become some sort of metric of quality. For me, I thoroughly enjoyed both and I’m a straight white male. If a film’s good, it’s good; if it sucks, it sucks. Our entertainment doesn’t need to become a silly political or race-fueled farce. There’s enough of shit on our daily newsfeeds to last 10 lifetimes. 

Please forgive me but sometimes I think white people get more worked up than Black people about this and I dont get it

This guys lays it out pretty plainly:



Insidb said:
CosmicSex said:

Wait why?  So far they have been modest, Earning just over the domestic gross.  Also, the critical reviews everywhere seem to be generally more positive than TLJ.  

The race problem: as progressive as America is, there has already been racial backlash. 

In my experience, many other regions have considerably worse relations with PoC.

pah, racial backlash is a joke. Quit listening to the media. Sure there may have been a facebook group or some people that are racists out there that are idiots. But like I heard the other day where white supremacist group in the US has 500 some members. That is 500 out of like 320 million americans. That is like .000001% of the population.  The media would like to let you think that 50% of the population is white supremacists.

The group of people moaning about this movie are also probably less than a hundred, no more than a thousand.



irstupid said:
Insidb said:

The race problem: as progressive as America is, there has already been racial backlash. 

In my experience, many other regions have considerably worse relations with PoC.

pah, racial backlash is a joke. Quit listening to the media. Sure there may have been a facebook group or some people that are racists out there that are idiots. But like I heard the other day where white supremacist group in the US has 500 some members. That is 500 out of like 320 million americans. That is like .000001% of the population.  The media would like to let you think that 50% of the population is white supremacists.

The group of people moaning about this movie are also probably less than a hundred, no more than a thousand.

I didn't respond to him because I too have experienced it myself.  I just didn't want to give it power and I do believe we need to have more faith in each other.  However I just want to let you know after watching the thousands of Neo Nazis march in SC last year that you can't make it better by saying it isn't a problem.  When I was oversees, I was at a hotel where people refused to serve me.  Did it suck?  Of course, but I'm gonna be better than them and I am gonna to tell you that yes, there are more normal people out there than haters.  This is the life I have been given and its mine.



Yet another superhero movie, yawn. Hollywood is devoid of fresh ideas.



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Nighthawk117 said:
Yet another superhero movie, yawn. Hollywood is devoid of fresh ideas.

Actually Black Panther is new.  I don't mind super hero movies I just don't want to see the same thing over and over again like the 3 spiderman reboots. 

And its not just superhero movies.  Hollywood really has a problem with reboots.  But, that raises a good question:  Is Hollywood responding that way because of lack of creativity or because what it knows people will pay to go see.  I mean money rules the world.  I doubt we would get so many reboots if people stopped going to see them.   What do you think the problem is?



I went to see this Friday.

Show was sold out, so I asked about getting a ticket for later on, the whole day was sold out. So I asked about Saturday, sold out, Sunday, sold out.

The Cinema stated this has never happened. It had huge group sales and massive advanced ticket buying. not sure when it'll die down so I can actually check it out.



 

CosmicSex said:
irstupid said:

pah, racial backlash is a joke. Quit listening to the media. Sure there may have been a facebook group or some people that are racists out there that are idiots. But like I heard the other day where white supremacist group in the US has 500 some members. That is 500 out of like 320 million americans. That is like .000001% of the population.  The media would like to let you think that 50% of the population is white supremacists.

The group of people moaning about this movie are also probably less than a hundred, no more than a thousand.

I didn't respond to him because I too have experienced it myself.  I just didn't want to give it power and I do believe we need to have more faith in each other.  However I just want to let you know after watching the thousands of Neo Nazis march in SC last year that you can't make it better by saying it isn't a problem.  When I was oversees, I was at a hotel where people refused to serve me.  Did it suck?  Of course, but I'm gonna be better than them and I am gonna to tell you that yes, there are more normal people out there than haters.  This is the life I have been given and its mine.

When I lived in Europe (I won't say which nations, because it was not universal.), the racism was more overt and out in the open. I was shocked by that, because it was simply unexpected. That's not to say that I've been isolated from it, here in NY. In fact, when I was very young, we had to cut ties with some racist family friends. Later on, we had to do the same with family in TN. In both of those cases, we were initially unaware, until they were forced to interact with our black friends and family. My multinational friends have told me that the problem is heightened in Asia and eastern bloc Europe, likely due to cultural isolation.

All of this seems to indicate that penetrating those markets could very well present a real challenge. Even in the US, there is a seemingly incomprehensible 30% of the country that has abandoned all mores to support a man who contradicts everything they've espoused their entire lives. It's horrifying, because I am related to these people, and they offhandedly dismiss the clear contradictions. Having seen it, lived it, and heard more about it overseas, I can see people offhandedly dismissing the film, too.



It's gonna break many records across the world. Will probably be the highest non avengers superhero movie



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Insidb said:

 

CosmicSex said:

I didn't respond to him because I too have experienced it myself.  I just didn't want to give it power and I do believe we need to have more faith in each other.  However I just want to let you know after watching the thousands of Neo Nazis march in SC last year that you can't make it better by saying it isn't a problem.  When I was oversees, I was at a hotel where people refused to serve me.  Did it suck?  Of course, but I'm gonna be better than them and I am gonna to tell you that yes, there are more normal people out there than haters.  This is the life I have been given and its mine.

When I lived in Europe (I won't say which nations, because it was not universal.), the racism was more overt and out in the open. I was shocked by that, because it was simply unexpected. That's not to say that I've been isolated from it, here in NY. In fact, when I was very young, we had to cut ties with some racist family friends. Later on, we had to do the same with family in TN. In both of those cases, we were initially unaware, until they were forced to interact with our black friends and family. My multinational friends have told me that the problem is heightened in Asia and eastern bloc Europe, likely due to cultural isolation.

All of this seems to indicate that penetrating those markets could very well present a real challenge. Even in the US, there is a seemingly incomprehensible 30% of the country that has abandoned all mores to support a man who contradicts everything they've espoused their entire lives. It's horrifying, because I am related to these people, and they offhandedly dismiss the clear contradictions. Having seen it, lived it, and heard more about it overseas, I can see people offhandedly dismissing the film, too.

There you go, labeling every Trump supporter a racists.