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The_Yoda said:
Cloudman said:

Ah, yeah, I can see how kids could easily start spending money on loot boxes without possibly knowing.

I had to put a pass code on my profile to keep the 9 year old off my game saves and out of the PS store.  Each kid has their own profile, I knew better but some parents could get stuck with a very large bill to learn that lesson.

Yeah, I've heard that horror story from news sources a few times before.



 

              

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And the industry only has themselves to blame for this, they could of started self regulating but no they just went too far and this is the result of their failure to keep themselves in check.



That's stupid. The people who are suffering most of this are the ones above 21 who are able to pay too much and go into a spiral of gambling and self destruction. Kids do it once and then get a slap on their wrist from their parents and even learn a valuable lesson. There are already plenty of safeguards in place for kids not to spend money. An age restriction will do nothing and maybe make it even worse. They're gonna find a way to get the game anyway and are getting desensitized to crime in the process. It's probably the worst thing they could've done.

If they really are serious about gambling then they should either ban it completely or put as many safe guards in the way as possible. Age restrictions on video games are no safeguards.



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So basically add a label to the packaging and you all good champ... America saves the consumer again...



If this goes through the best part would undoubtedly by the bit where they have to actually reveal the odds for receiving certain things. It's pretty ridiculous that they charge you money for loot boxes and don't even tell you what is potentially inside them at the moment.



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Good! Well done Hawaii. Though additional taxation and addiction warnings are still needed for above 21 aswell.



vivster said:

That's stupid. The people who are suffering most of this are the ones above 21 who are able to pay too much and go into a spiral of gambling and self destruction. Kids do it once and then get a slap on their wrist from their parents and even learn a valuable lesson. There are already plenty of safeguards in place for kids not to spend money. An age restriction will do nothing and maybe make it even worse. They're gonna find a way to get the game anyway and are getting desensitized to crime in the process. It's probably the worst thing they could've done.

If they really are serious about gambling then they should either ban it completely or put as many safe guards in the way as possible. Age restrictions on video games are no safeguards.

That’s why we gotta go Japan’s route. Every luck-based item has its chances revealed and there’s a limit on how much you can spend on a game. Why the US isn’t like this is beyond me, especially when we see people dropping literally thousands on games 



monocle_layton said:
vivster said:

That's stupid. The people who are suffering most of this are the ones above 21 who are able to pay too much and go into a spiral of gambling and self destruction. Kids do it once and then get a slap on their wrist from their parents and even learn a valuable lesson. There are already plenty of safeguards in place for kids not to spend money. An age restriction will do nothing and maybe make it even worse. They're gonna find a way to get the game anyway and are getting desensitized to crime in the process. It's probably the worst thing they could've done.

If they really are serious about gambling then they should either ban it completely or put as many safe guards in the way as possible. Age restrictions on video games are no safeguards.

That’s why we gotta go Japan’s route. Every luck-based item has its chances revealed and there’s a limit on how much you can spend on a game. Why the US isn’t like this is beyond me, especially when we see people dropping literally thousands on games 

It's one thing if you're paying for in-game currency you can use to build your house faster. Loot boxes are, as the bill says, "gambling-like," even if they don't meet the exact definition. Systems like that are kept away from minors for a very good reason.



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Nice... I still remmeber doing IAP tests back when I was working at Gameloft. Used to be disgusted by myself. At least they are stepping up.



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