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Do you want the NWO?

Yes 2 12.50%
 
No 14 87.50%
 
Total:16

Meh, with automation and AI we'll soon enough easily be able to provide everyone with basic things like food, water, healthcare and education (to the degree that we see a point in education, depends how good that AI is, but i suspect we'd always want a certain degree of education anyway) at little to no cost. We don't need (nor want) collectivisation to achieve that. It's just a natural development of technology.

At that point, people can survive doing whatever they please, but if you want to go any further, you'll have to get those things on your own. You won't get your video games for free.

But again, we come back to the issue of how good AI becomes. At some point, any human productivity will be basically worthless as no one will be able to compete with computers and robots when it comes to efficiency, precision and nearly any other measure as well. How you avoid huge economic inequality in a society like that, now that's another issue entirely. Do I think socialism (or something like it) might be a part of the solution to that issue? Yes. It's arrogant to think that modern civilisation has reached the penultimate point of ideological and economical systems. Our system has existed for just a bit more than over 200 years. That's nothing in the history of mankind. Many civilisations prior to our own existed for millenia but were ultimately replaced or broken up. To expect that there will never again be major changes, especially in this day and age of rapid development and change is crazy.

Last edited by Teeqoz - on 08 February 2018

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PwerlvlAmy said:

Go to people besides the MSM and see whats really going on there lol

Weird, I was there last month and saw nothing of the sort.



PwerlvlAmy said:
Kaneman! said:

Complete takeover? Breakdown of their society? When did that happen?

Go to people besides the MSM and see whats really going on there lol

I'm going to need more than just that for proof.



PwerlvlAmy said:
Kaneman! said:

Complete takeover? Breakdown of their society? When did that happen?

Go to people besides the MSM and see whats really going on there lol

So what’s going on here?! Violence and crime that is still a fifth of the USA?!

I live in Berlin, we took in a relatively large amount of (US caused) refugees. Our city is many times safer than any US American city at night.

I guess they don’t tell you facts like that on Trump rallies.

Me and my family actually help refugee families from Iraq and Syria. Something your “intact” society seemingly can’t deliver.

Last edited by Errorist76 - on 08 February 2018

Hiku said:
Errorist76 said:

So what’s going on here?! Violence and crime that is still a fifth of the USA?!

I live in Berlin, we took in a relatively large amount. Our city is many times safer than any US American city at night.

I guess they don’t tell you facts like that on Trump rallies.

No matter how many people from those countries tell and show them otherwise, there are people who are going to believe what they want to believe. What they hear on Fox News, Infowars, Breitbart, etc. White nationalist alternative media outlets, calling themselves alt-right or whatever is the flavor of the day are very effective in spreading so called fake news, while proclaiming to be combating it.

I've been in my fair share of discussions with people (usually Americans) who believe they know significantly more about the apparent 'hellscape' that is my country, than myself who has lived there for most of my life. When their claims are disproven by studies/facts, they just strawman the argument, and their view never changes.

Yeah, I know. It still makes me angry those misguided people believe nonsense like this. You know, me and my family actually do help refugee families from Iraq and Syria. Helping them move, get furniture for them, clothes. All unpayed of course. Beautiful families who had to leave their countries because Americans and allies destroyed them or helped destroying them.

It’s just sad people are getting fooled by sensational fake news like this when the situation is like it is.

The worst actually is to not know if they will be able to stay, even though they try to integrate very well.

Last edited by Errorist76 - on 08 February 2018

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Errorist76 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Go to people besides the MSM and see whats really going on there lol

So what’s going on here?! Violence and crime that is still a fifth of the USA?!

I live in Berlin, we took in a relatively large amount of (US caused) refugees. Our city is many times safer than any US American city at night.

I guess they don’t tell you facts like that on Trump rallies.

Me and my family actually help refugee families from Iraq and Syria. Something your “intact” society seemingly can’t deliver.

So that's your rebuttal, typical response of anti trump stuff. Says all I need to know. Have a good one :)



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PwerlvlAmy said:
Errorist76 said:

So what’s going on here?! Violence and crime that is still a fifth of the USA?!

I live in Berlin, we took in a relatively large amount of (US caused) refugees. Our city is many times safer than any US American city at night.

I guess they don’t tell you facts like that on Trump rallies.

Me and my family actually help refugee families from Iraq and Syria. Something your “intact” society seemingly can’t deliver.

So that's your rebuttal, typical response of anti trump stuff. Says all I need to know. Have a good one :)

You were the one throwing nonsense in the round of discussion without being able to back it up. Makes sense that you’re leaving with your tail between your legs.



Errorist76 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

So that's your rebuttal, typical response of anti trump stuff. Says all I need to know. Have a good one :)

You were the one throwing nonsense in the round of discussion without being able to back it up. Makes sense that you’re leaving with your tail between your legs.

Hey. I wanted to have a discussion. You want to have an argument and throw insults. Sorry. Not how I roll. 



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PwerlvlAmy said:
Errorist76 said:

You were the one throwing nonsense in the round of discussion without being able to back it up. Makes sense that you’re leaving with your tail between your legs.

Hey. I wanted to have a discussion. You want to have an argument and throw insults. Sorry. Not how I roll. 

 

Your statement did not sound like you wanted a discussion. It was you who was being offensive with the following statement. Think about it.

PwerlvlAmy said: 
Errorist76 said: 

Must’ve missed the huge rise of nationalism around the globe in the last decade.

Don't forget the downgrade and complete take over of Germany and France due to open borders and break down of their society.over reach of the EU. America is heading that way now as well. Its been postponed but ultimately its inevitable.

I was just trying to widen your horizon by stating some facts. You can’t complain about me criticising Trump rhetoric if you refer to use it.



Errorist76 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Hey. I wanted to have a discussion. You want to have an argument and throw insults. Sorry. Not how I roll. 

 

Your statement did not sound like you wanted a discussion. It was you who was being offensive with the following statement. Think about it.

PwerlvlAmy said: 

Don't forget the downgrade and complete take over of Germany and France due to open borders and break down of their society.over reach of the EU. America is heading that way now as well. Its been postponed but ultimately its inevitable.

I was just trying to widen your horizon by stating some facts. You can’t complain about me criticising Trump rhetoric if you refer to use it.

You can justify your actions in any way you see fit. Fact of the matter is you wanted to have an argument and only wanted to hurl insults. When you want to have a legit discussion without insults or demeaning others. Feel free to PM me anytime.



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