JWeinCom said:
Errorist76 said:
Nothing he has done is trolling...you clearly were trolling in an earlier post though, ridiculing this thread. Be careful not to throw stones in a glass house.
I agree...This habam guy has clearly overdone it with VR threads lately...I wrote him an PM about it, but I wouldn't call it spam nor trolling...simply trying too hard. If people themselves wouldn't try to troll all the time those threads wouldn't be bounced up again and again.
You're right though...all this stuff would fit in the official VR thread and I've even PMed him about that exact topic. We'll see if he has understood the problem with his behaviour once his ban is lifted.
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Nah. I wasn't trolling. Being an asshole sure, but that's not trolling. From urban dictionary.
"The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.
The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll."
His over the top insistence that 100% of people love VR is so absurd that the point of it has to be to annoy people. Especially seeing as he was already banned for it at least once. It's textbook trolling.
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I'm not sure...I don't think so. I definitely think he believes that, even I believe that in a way, seeing how much problems I have getting back into normal gaming having experienced the thrill of VR lately.
It's literally, and I'm not kidding, so exciting it makes me feel like a kid again, grinning from ear to ear. If one experiences something like this after gaming had gotten stale a bit lately, how it was for me, it's certainly a revelation and one wants to inform people about it.
That said it's a fact that there are certain circumstances which prevent people from enjoying it, or even want to enjoy it, which is something one needs to accept. At least at the given point of technology. And there's the point where he definitely IS lacking empathy or a certain level of maturity.
I mean, I myself might have acted a bit like that. I just don't think I'm as extreme as he is. He's acting pretty dogmatic, really.
Wilful trolling would mean he does this with the target to annoy people. I really think he does it with the target to "convince" people, not realising that he's achieving the opposite the way he does it.
Similar to a young guy, foolish in love, who desperately wants to tell his girl of his dreams how much he adores her, wanting her to feel the same but overdoing it and finally achieving the opposite as a result :)
(I definitely believe his story btw. I had a similar experience with my brother...never wanted it. Bought one, 2 hours after he had tried mine;)
Last edited by Errorist76 - on 28 January 2018