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LivingMetal on 26 January 2018
smroadkill15 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Forever? You mean, for as long as your HDD works and the servers exist to "serve" them back to you when it happens.

What if my console breaks, disc breaks, disc gets stolen, etc? Neither is future proof. At least if my console breaks, or HDD stops working, I can still download the game if I get a new one. If my disc breaks there is really nothing that can be done unless it's still under warranty.  

Last I checked, all of my +400 PlayStation titles since the PSOne all still work and are all in my possession.  Same goes for my Nintendo and Sega collection to say the least.  I'd rather be dependent on myself rather than a corporation.



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LivingMetal on 26 January 2018
Xen said:
Harsh and stupid IF they still make a profit on the console. This only makes sense if the stock space is directly replaced with more profitable goods, but then one wonders, why did they even bother to stock the system in the first place?

From my standpoint, look at the volume of an Xbox One box.  Now, imagine how many retail packaged games you can store in that box.  If I were the retailer and had to choose, I'd rather "nickle and dime" with games over having to push a single more expensive ticket item.



DonFerrari on 26 January 2018
Barozi said:
DonFerrari said:

Do stores make 0 profit from mobile and tablets?

Definitely on some, yeah.
I know this for a fact as my brother used to work in Europe's biggest electronic store and there are tons of device that are sold even at a loss. Especially the ones that are on sale. Just a way to get people into the store and buy something extra.
The real profit comes from other stuff such as cables, peripherals or full priced media.

Sure some are at loss and others are at profit... and we would be talking about removing ALL smartphones and tablets (well they also use less space than Xbox), or in this case they are removing one SKU line but keeping competitor equipment over there, and talking in this case is about tacking out the one that would bring less customers since it is the lowest selling in the country.

Also the smartphones and tablets aren't made with strategies that aim to take away the money from the store on policies changes.

Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

 

 

 

 

Maybe you have better chance of being someone uncareful... none of those situations happened to me, but servers shutting down, licenses being removed, etc already happened.

Major benefit, looking at my collection, loaning to a friend, showing off to visits, etc.

 

Lets not make a list on how many games become unplayable via there conditions compared to games being unplayable due to servers shutting down.

Servers shutting down rarely happen and if it does happen it happens to online games or games that no body plays anymore. I have a giant collection of old games and due to there age some of them have completely stopped working. I cannot buy the games anymore and I cannot fix them. I check my Steam account and see all my games I have collected over the 12 years. Not one of them is unplayable and that's over 1000 games. 

If you buy your Digital games off a App that isn't well supported (Outside Steam, Live, PSN, EShop) than that's an issue in itself. The brands I mentioned are not going anywhere anytime soon and that means neither would my games.

Yes let's not make a list because I can keep all my games on good condition while I can't responsabilize for servers.

If you take bad care of your games that is on you, sorry. And you can't be sure about any of those services... Gameloft have been on game for over a decade and now it isn't supported in some devices, Kodak was the leader on its field and basically vanished... you can't be sure about any service or company situation in 10 years. Valve could be bought for some reason and all servers shut, you'll never know.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

KiigelHeart on 26 January 2018

I buy most of my games digital, it's simply so much More convenient. I buy a physical copy every now and then to support a local retailer but I wouldn't If they'd do shit like this. They won't because they know they make business with merchandise and used games though.



irstupid on 26 January 2018

It's only a matter of time before video game brick and mortar stores go the way of Blockbuster.

They need to find a way to adapt or evolve. Doing acts like this are not going to fix their problem of the future.



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Puppyroach on 26 January 2018

Understandable since they are a dying part of the industry and therefore make desperate moves like this. A digital only future is something MS, Sony and Nintendo look forward to but it's understandable that retailers and some fans will oppose the transition, for different reasons.



LivingMetal on 26 January 2018
Puppyroach said:
Understandable since they are a dying part of the industry and therefore make desperate moves like this. A digital only future is something MS, Sony and Nintendo look forward to but it's understandable that retailers and some fans will oppose the transition, for different reasons.

Overstatement of the Year.  Digital games are a very viable option now while the gaming industry has only gotten better not just because of digital.  It's gotten better because of the games offered to consumers which in turn provides options to obtain those games whether it's physical, digital, or used.  Most all major retailers and online vendors still stock physical CD's.  It's reasonable to phantom that physical copy of games will still exist very viably in the foreseeable future.



Puppyroach on 26 January 2018
LivingMetal said:
Puppyroach said:
Understandable since they are a dying part of the industry and therefore make desperate moves like this. A digital only future is something MS, Sony and Nintendo look forward to but it's understandable that retailers and some fans will oppose the transition, for different reasons.

Overstatement of the Year.  Digital games are a very viable option now while the gaming industry has only gotten better not just because of digital.  It's gotten better because of the games offered to consumers which in turn provides options to obtain those games whether it's physical, digital, or used.  Most all major retailers and online vendors still stock physical CD's.  It's reasonable to phantom that physical copy of games will still exist very viably in the foreseeable future.

I would guess that digital will be the norm within ten years, if not sooner. 



smroadkill15 on 26 January 2018
AlfredoTurkey said:
smroadkill15 said:

What if my console breaks, disc breaks, disc gets stolen, etc? Neither is future proof. At least if my console breaks, or HDD stops working, I can still download the game if I get a new one. If my disc breaks there is really nothing that can be done unless it's still under warranty.  

You can always fix your console (I have fixed my NES multiple times), you can always take care of the disc so it doesn't have any scratches and you can always be careful not to let it get stolen.

What's the general theme here? I'd rather have the responsibility fall on ME than on a heartless, conglomerate who doesn't give one fuck about me and my games.  

I'm mainly referring to others because I take great care of everything I own. Only time I had anything go wrong is when a friend "borrowed" a game and something happened to it. This was when I was a kid also. I'm just saying, neither is perfect and if someone chooses they would rather have only digital games, then that's their choice.

Btw, MS has been wonderful when it comes to continued support of their games since the 360. Not only BC, but server support as well. 

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LivingMetal on 26 January 2018
Puppyroach said:
LivingMetal said:

Overstatement of the Year.  Digital games are a very viable option now while the gaming industry has only gotten better not just because of digital.  It's gotten better because of the games offered to consumers which in turn provides options to obtain those games whether it's physical, digital, or used.  Most all major retailers and online vendors still stock physical CD's.  It's reasonable to phantom that physical copy of games will still exist very viably in the foreseeable future.

I would guess that digital will be the norm within ten years, if not sooner. 

Could be, but that doesn't mean it's a detriment to the viability of physical sales.