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GhaudePhaede010 said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:
I remember when my mom brought home a Wii (still a mystery how she was able to snag one that first holiday season in '06) for herself and asked me to help her set up and play. Right away I realized the system was trash and not meant for gamers but for moms, aunts, grandmothers, and small children. Garbage, garbage, garbage system. But boy did that thing cause a crazy hysteria, everyone wanted one and was talking about it.

What made it, "garbage, garbage, garbage" though?

The whole thing felt cheap, the controllers, the connectors, accessories. At that point it was odd seeing something so low quality from Nintendo. Not to mention the wiimote, made it more of a toy than a gaming system.

Also after gaming on my shiny new 360 for a few months prior to my first experience with the Wii, the graphics were an absolute joke. 

Props to Nintendo for creating a phenom though, but it just wasnt my cup of tea. 

 

That being said, I've absolutely loved every other piece of gaming hardware Nintendo has put out, even the Wii U.



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Megiddo said:
Mnementh said:

Well, look at the chart of the best-selling games (on console as this is what VGC tracks really):

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/

Wii only takes five out of the TOP 10 slots.

Right, and 3 of those are Wii Sports related (at least I assume Wii Play is in the same vein as Wii Sports as I never played it).

That's the sort of evidence that further lends me to think that the Wii itself as a system was mainly a Wii Sports machine for lots of people who bought it.

Whatever, Wii Sports sold the system, that's right. Still the people bought Mario Kart and Smash. Twilight Princess is either best selling or second best selling Zelda-game (I don't really know if OOT wins). Mario Kart Wii is the best selling Mario Kart. New Super Mario Bros. Wii is the third selling Mario game (Mario Bros on NES and New Super Mario Bros on DS were the only ones that did better). Brawl is the best selling Smash Bros. So yes, Wii Sports was selling the Wii, but that still means a lot of games besides Wii Sports were purchased after that.

Even the legendary PS2 that has sold 50% more consoles has it's first entry on 17. So clearly Wii sold games.



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Megiddo said:
Mnementh said:

Well, look at the chart of the best-selling games (on console as this is what VGC tracks really):

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/

Wii only takes five out of the TOP 10 slots.

Right, and 3 of those are Wii Sports related (at least I assume Wii Play is in the same vein as Wii Sports as I never played it).

That's the sort of evidence that further lends me to think that the Wii itself as a system was mainly a Wii Sports machine for lots of people who bought it.

Well, why not look at the top selling Wii titles and see if that does anything to alter your admittedly bias opinion.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

What made it, "garbage, garbage, garbage" though?

The whole thing felt cheap, the controllers, the connectors, accessories. At that point it was odd seeing something so low quality from Nintendo. Not to mention the wiimote, made it more of a toy than a gaming system.

Also after gaming on my shiny new 360 for a few months prior to my first experience with the Wii, the graphics were an absolute joke. 

Props to Nintendo for creating a phenom though, but it just wasnt my cup of tea. 

 

That being said, I've absolutely loved every other piece of gaming hardware Nintendo has put out, even the Wii U.

I see. I do not agree with much of what you said but it is your opinion so I can accept that.

 

I also had a 360 before Wii (as I got my 360 a little after launch and it did RRoD on me) but I guess I could accept the downgrade in graphics if the game was No More Heroes or something. I did enjoy DS even though PSP blew it away, too. Maybe you did not like DS though because 360 murders it graphically, too.



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GhaudePhaede010 said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

The whole thing felt cheap, the controllers, the connectors, accessories. At that point it was odd seeing something so low quality from Nintendo. Not to mention the wiimote, made it more of a toy than a gaming system.

Also after gaming on my shiny new 360 for a few months prior to my first experience with the Wii, the graphics were an absolute joke. 

Props to Nintendo for creating a phenom though, but it just wasnt my cup of tea. 

 

That being said, I've absolutely loved every other piece of gaming hardware Nintendo has put out, even the Wii U.

I see. I do not agree with much of what you said but it is your opinion so I can accept that.

 

I also had a 360 before Wii (as I got my 360 a little after launch and it did RRoD on me) but I guess I could accept the downgrade in graphics if the game was No More Heroes or something. I did enjoy DS even though PSP blew it away, too. Maybe you did not like DS though because 360 murders it graphically, too.

To the contrary I loved the DS and in fact spent a month trying to get a DS Lite during a crazy shortage. Of course I wasn't expecting 360 level graphics on a handheld so thats apples to oranges. Not to mention, DS lite was around what $130 in 2006? Compared to $400 for 360...



PortisheadBiscuit said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

I see. I do not agree with much of what you said but it is your opinion so I can accept that.

 

I also had a 360 before Wii (as I got my 360 a little after launch and it did RRoD on me) but I guess I could accept the downgrade in graphics if the game was No More Heroes or something. I did enjoy DS even though PSP blew it away, too. Maybe you did not like DS though because 360 murders it graphically, too.

To the contrary I loved the DS and in fact spent a month trying to get a DS Lite during a crazy shortage. Of course I wasn't expecting 360 level graphics on a handheld so thats apples to oranges. Not to mention, DS lite was around what $130 in 2006? Compared to $400 for 360...

But compared to the PSP, it was very underpowered...



KLXVER said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

To the contrary I loved the DS and in fact spent a month trying to get a DS Lite during a crazy shortage. Of course I wasn't expecting 360 level graphics on a handheld so thats apples to oranges. Not to mention, DS lite was around what $130 in 2006? Compared to $400 for 360...

But compared to the PSP, it was very underpowered...

True, but IMO the quality difference between the 360 and Wii was more pronounced than DS vs PSP. Especially considering DS had some amazing software that was comfortable to hold and game with, no waggling required. 



PortisheadBiscuit said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

I see. I do not agree with much of what you said but it is your opinion so I can accept that.

 

I also had a 360 before Wii (as I got my 360 a little after launch and it did RRoD on me) but I guess I could accept the downgrade in graphics if the game was No More Heroes or something. I did enjoy DS even though PSP blew it away, too. Maybe you did not like DS though because 360 murders it graphically, too.

To the contrary I loved the DS and in fact spent a month trying to get a DS Lite during a crazy shortage. Of course I wasn't expecting 360 level graphics on a handheld so thats apples to oranges. Not to mention, DS lite was around what $130 in 2006? Compared to $400 for 360...

Well from a factual basis, your comments have reached hypocrisy. DS looked like a toy and had horrible graphics for the time (PSP blew it away) and the games must have looked like a joke compared to 360. I can now say that you have reached a wall you must overcome here.

By the time you played Wii you had to know the graphics were a downgrade so if you were expecting 360 level performance (or even close as everyone back then knew it was closer to PS2 than 360) then you are just placing your own, hypocritical barrier on Wii. Comparing graphics with all consoles is fair since they are all video game consoles and they are all vying for your money.

DS also started the casual gaming revolution with games like Brain Training and Cooking Mama... yet people had no problems buying an underpowered handheld that looked more like a toy than a video game console and offered nongamers all kinds of options. No, no, everyone takes their ire out on Wii. See my confusion?



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GhaudePhaede010 said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

To the contrary I loved the DS and in fact spent a month trying to get a DS Lite during a crazy shortage. Of course I wasn't expecting 360 level graphics on a handheld so thats apples to oranges. Not to mention, DS lite was around what $130 in 2006? Compared to $400 for 360...

Well from a factual basis, your comments have reached hypocrisy. DS looked like a toy and had horrible graphics for the time (PSP blew it away) and the games must have looked like a joke compared to 360. I can now say that you have reached a wall you must overcome here.

By the time you played Wii you had to know the graphics were a downgrade so if you were expecting 360 level performance (or even close as everyone back then knew it was closer to PS2 than 360) then you are just placing your own, hypocritical barrier on Wii. Comparing graphics with all consoles is fair since they are all video game consoles and they are all vying for your money.

DS also started the casual gaming revolution with games like Brain Training and Cooking Mama... yet people had no problems buying an underpowered handheld that looked more like a toy than a video game console and offered nongamers all kinds of options. No, no, everyone takes their ire out on Wii. See my confusion?

So it seems as if you didn't start this thread to get people's actual opinions, but rather try and school people why their distaste for Wii is incorrect?