I'm going to leave you guys to it. I'll just say that, when I think of Rey, I think of this: https://youtu.be/h6WYxD17Wn0

Excuses, excuses.  Sure, Xmas eve was going to hurt it some, but it still had a 76% fall that past Fri.  TFA fell 59%, while the other $200M+ openers fell ~65%.  Comparing Sat, TFA fell 17%, while the other two fell 38% and 44%.  TLJ fell 55%.  Of course, you don't address three major points.  One, the massive hit in user ratings.  Those aren't just some Alt-Right trolls, like Hollywood and the media want to believe.  Two, do you honestly think Disney would have released at this time of year if they thought that just because of the holidays, which TFA had to put up with, too, would cost them to be down ~$180M-$200M after just two weeks?  Of course they wouldn't.  They expected to be down some, probably ~10%-12% max, but nothing like this.  And three, how do you explain the decline in the foreign market?  You Xmas isn't the biggest thing in all of those countries?

Gotta laugh that you are already setting up an excuse for next weekend.  A week TFA also dropped only 40%.

ANH was five damn years on wide release, it's not comparable to anything nowadays except maybe Avatar and even that movie was a pale echo of earlier, long lived blockbusters. The first two prrqurls actually dropped because of their low quality which instead is much more like we are seeing with the sequels. Even then I place the prequels above since at least they were made by Lucas instead of being Disney fanfiction, and really, even Jar Jar poop jokes are not worse than "general Huggs, I have a message from your mother hehe :D".

And stop telling how people should do or enjoy things because a paradigm of truth and wisdom you are obviously not. Not to mention people bought and paid for it, so they are well within their reasonable right of not being satistied with what they got.

Yeah, it's getting way too toxic here. It's why I don't really want to post here, especially since I was told that I was wrong for liking The Last Jedi.

It sucks to get attacked for having an opinion some people don't agree with. It's like they don't know how to respect opinions anymore.

Watched it today. Pretty epic movie. I preferred rogue one just because of its ending but I really enjoyed what I saw today. Plenty of on the edge of your seat moments where you are wondering what's going to happen.

I look forward to the han solo story next and then episode 9 on a few years.

I'm looking forward to an all new Star Wars trilogy now that Rian Johnson (or whoever else they decide to hire if Johnson gets the boot)  will have a whole trilogy to work with and establish a completely new story more or less from the ground up. Just feel like Johnson wanted to go on his own tangent but was limited with what TFA set up so TLJ was hindered as a result. But I have no desire to see Episode 9 whatsoever after watching TLJ. I have no idea what to expect with the Han Solo spin off but I hope it's good. I did really enjoy Apollo 13 which was another "space" movie directed by Ron Howard so maybe that's a good sign, plus I'm a fan of Woody Harrelson.

Still haven't seen Rouge One, I've heard it's a lot of blatant "fan service" but as long as it's entertaining I don't care too much about that. 

So far, all of Disney's "Star Wars" films, including Rogue One, are just a messy pile of bad ideas and bad writing/execution. If you're a fan of explosions, regurgitated plots that go nowhere, and empty characters that are basically just archetypes with no real substance, then you'll love Disney Star Wars.

I'm saying Star Wars fans need to fucking relax. Every movie now for the last SIX damn movies has generated controversey because it isn't what some portion of the fanbase wanted. 

You're never going to be happy. In part the expectation is that Star Wars will take these fans back into their childhood. It's not fucking happening. Grow up and get over it. 

You're getting Star Wars movies of the same basic tier/quality of the Marvel films. Stop expecting some kind of religious experience in the movie theater. It's never going to happen. If you want to nit pick Thor Ragnarok and Dr. Strange in the same way you can rip those apart too. It's just a movie, and at this point it's the fucking EIGHTH ONE. By the 8th Rocky or 8th Jaws or 8th Harry Potter of 8th anything, things start to get a bit redundant. 

It's never going to be 1977 or 1980 or 1983 again, and the magic the originals had will never be duplicated, that's one of those runs that happens once in a life time. Accept what you get now is a modern Hollywood blockbuster on par with the Marvel stuff in a Star Wars wrapper. 

The rose tinted glasses of nostalgia. People complained about the Porgs being just merchandising, but WTF do they think we had Ewoks before?

SPOILERS AHEAD!!

It was a pretty good movie. Kylo got more backstory and is simply the best character of the new trilogy. I liked how Poe, Finn and Rose failed at their plan. Usually, heroes always do these insane plans with 0.0001% chance of success and get away with it. They failed hard and fell flat on their arses. Finn is evolving as a hero by accident while Poe finally gets some depth as character, as the impulsive guy that thinks he can solve all the problems of the world.

I enjoyed seeing the conflicted Luke. And it was nice to see his final trick (much better than the Legend's BS where he was god-like). It a total Jedi move, using the force in a non-violent way to achieve his objectives.

What I did not enjoy was Snoke. Zero backstory, just a random guy strong on the dark side that dies like an idiot. I understand that Palpatine also lacked any backstory until the prequels, but in the OG trilogy he had the clear intention of replacing Vader with an younger apprentice (Luke), while Vader wanted to betray him and get Luke as an apprentice. So he had reasons, objectives, plans. Snoke just showed up, wanted to kill Skywalker and be Emperor Part II. Palpatine also benefited from being a Sith, so the Jedi in the film explained to the audience what a Sith was and their motivations (like the Rule of Two). I have the impression that they created a huge expectation about who Snoke was and just could not think about anything decent. I do reckon that it was quite Sith-like to see the powerful master die by the hand of his apprentice in an act of treason.

I also can't really get Rey. She just unlocks new Force skills randomly. She basically learns nothing from Luke, just a few lessons. Even Luke got more stuff from Obi-Wan alone. I'm not complaining about her besting Kylo. He is conflicted, between the light and dark side. Snoke himself was trying hard to solve this by dragging him to the dark side, but he was not managing to do this. But high level stuff like mind reading is a bit to much for someone without training.

She also doesn't have anything really interesting. Kylo has the internal conflict and now we know that he actually turned to the dark side because of Luke failing him. Finn is the coward that ends up always redeeming himself. Rey? The only character she has is that she is powerful with the Force. They tried to make a scene with her and Snoke that was akin to Luke/Vader/Emperor face-off at Death Star 2, but honestly, Kylo saved that scene because he was the only of the 3 that actually has a character. Snoke was just a plot device to evolve Kylo.

While it may seem that I have plenty of complaints, they are mostly minor or affect only a single character. For me, the new trilogy is becoming movies about Kylo and not Rey. People complained about him being a crybaby and Vader-wannabe, but those were exactly part of his internal conflicts. He actually managed to do something Vader never was able to: replace his master.