Makes no sense...... Can't even believe this thread got this far.

The Switch being the most "powerful" console nintendo has made says a lot of you really look at it. They looked at their underpowered home console (wiiU) which was just a beefed up version of their previous home console (wii) and realized that with the current mobile tech available they could make a handheld console that was more powerful than both.

There is also the identity thing; there is a certain kinda game people have come to expect from sony. Be it their first or third party. Sony's entire identity and library thrive off these massive AAA gaming experiences. And those games are designed primarily for a living room or at the very least a home TV experience. Hence why we are hearing things like 4k, HDR, dolby surround sound...etc in all these games. Things that cater to that form factor.

Yes, with enough cuts and compromises you can make a good number of these games work in a hybrid form factor. But 70M+ sales or a 100M+ sales if we include the XB1 or 200M+ if we include PC gamers is a clear statement that thats not what a lot of gamers want.

Just very different markets. I had been saying it previously that what Nintendo needs to do is combine their platforms. They obviously have always done better in the handheld space than they have done in the home console space. Always. Just look at all their best selling hardware. That clearly shows that handhelds are Nintendo strength. And this hybrid now is them playing to those strengths.

Sony needs to stick to their guns and play to their own strengths too.

To meet all requirements you mentioned, no, they could not do that right now early 2018, which is why we have been saying 2019/2020 and why you have been saying it won't be able to compete with Switch 2 or XB2. They most likely wouldn't be able to launch it until mid to late 2019 at the earliest.

I don't disagree with the fact that PS hasn't done as well in the handheld market compared to their consoles, but a hybrid should allow it to be tied into the existing ecosystem, alleviating some of the risk. With PS doing so well, and Switch coming on strong, I don't see PS allowing XB1 to compete directly with PS4, while they watch Switch succeed, potentially even more so than PS4 has, with no direct competition whatsoever.

You also have to ask yourself, if Switch ends up selling 100 million hybrids over 5 or 6 years, will they only stick to hybrids, or will they eventually take a small risk and create a powerful Nin home console using a beefed up semi-custom Tegra? Nvidia has the Shield console and Nintendo already 'copied' the handheld version of it. Why wouldn't they take a stab at the console version if they find massive success with the hybrid as their base? Nvidia doesn't seem to have much of a problem with it at all since they are helping and supplying Nin. If your PS, you want a hybrid that can compete with Switch, just in case Nin tries to take a piece of the console market again, which they could easily do at that point, since it would all end up under the same ecosystem. This would also be great bait to get third parties more interested in Switch. If there was a PS4 to Pro level dedicated "Switch Shield" home console, third parties would be more likely to port to it, and once they do, getting the game on Switch would be a much smaller hurdle at that point. A similar concept to PS4 and Pro.

None of this is guaranteed to happen, but it's all possible. One thing about business and companies are that they very rarely lock up a market then stand still. Just look at any major company and you will see that once they 'own' a particular market, or have grabbed what is available to them, they move onto another market, and usually something similar that isn't to much different than what they know and are good at. You don't see PS/Nin vehicles, just like how you don't see GM/Ford gaming devices. You do see different PS/Nin gaming devices, just like how you see different GM/Ford vehicles.

Nintendo doesn't care about AAA game with cinematic and amazing graphic like Sony. so they have no reason to make another home console. Otherwise, they will fail just like N64, GameCube and Wii U. You think ps4/5 portable will have AAA graphic like Horizon and even more when ps5 come out with price point $250 only which last at least 4-5 hours even in 2020?

Nin may not, but third parties do, unless what your saying is that Nin doesn't care about third parties. I'm not sure how many times I, as well as you, have to say the games would have to be scaled back before you get the hint that I don't think the games would look and run the same as they do on PS4 in handheld mode.

Sony is terrible company for handheld. They just don't know jackshit nor can give the ample amount of focus it needs.

Right now, even their phones are terrible so I don't think anything other than there regular home consoles are going to work well.

In 2020, Tegra X3 can come out and that can match ps4 but not for ps4/5 portable so ADM, what is the strongest mobile chip they have now? Also, no way it is only $250 and battery last 4 - 5 hours. Switch battery last only ~ 3 hours for AAA and ~ 4 hours for small game.No way it can be far stronger while cheaper and a lot longer battery in 2019-2020 than Switch

I believe Xavier releases this year. It can probably match PS4 power or come close but it's not viable in something that requires a battery. The battery would drain in minutes.

That is why i said 2020, a custom X3 chip that get improved in battery life can be made by Nintendo's request

The Switch is using a 2 year old SOC. AMD has the Raven Ridge APU's Ryzen 5 2500U and Ryzen 7 2700U. These chips have the same 15 Watt TDP of the Tegra X1, and offer a massive increase in CPU power, and upto 1.5x the GPU power. 

In 2019 - 2020 we will have 3rd gen or 4th gen Ryzen tech and Navi or its successor, which are focused on scalability and performance per watt. This will all be delivered on 7nm fabrication instead of the current 14nm, which in of itself, will deliver massive gains, let alone the achitecture improvements.

Building a mobile device in 2019 - 2020 that is cheaper, stronger, and lasts longer than the Switch will be no challenge at all. Building a mobile device that destroys the PS4 in CPU power, and tops it in GPU power in 2019 - 2020 will be no issue at all. Nintendo could build a Switch right now, that is cheaper, with more power, and a twice the battery life using the Tegra X2.

i hope not, because it would the same situation where sony copied nintendo with the move...if sony try something i hope they do something completely new...