That is the real kicker isn't it? The majority of games that will be run on a Playstation 4 Pro are... *Drumroll* base Playstation 4 games.
It's the same issue that plagues the Xbox One X.

Well. Sony and Microsoft should force requirements for their "premium" machines to have some sort of improvement over the base machine going forward.
It doesn't need to be anything massive though... But just enough so that people feel they got their money's worth.

And again, you knew I meant console exclusive while the PC audience is not a direct competitor per se. Which is why PC sometimes shares games even when a company buys exclusivity.

Your personal voice wasn't asked for and I didn't respond to it. I'm speaking in more general terms so your personal thoughts will mostly be ignored. Might as well go talk to a wall at that rate.

Switch hasn't really gotten the big Japanese support yet. It'll come but that's a market Sony and Nintendo primarily fight for. Xbox just gets some of it because it has an audience, easy to port and extra money, like FFXV and MGSV.

X1 may be a minority console but it still has a very viable userbase, unlike Wii U which ultimately killed Nintendo in the home console arena. Switch is simply doubling down on handheld which was always successful.

So you played SNES Classic more than X1? What does that even prove? Odds are you played games found on X1 but on other platforms. This is why your anecdotal comments add nothing, you're simply out of touch. "I played multiplat games on other machines so therefore X1 has nothing to play." This is basically your logic and its an ignorant perspective.

You know I meant console exclusive. PC is not 8treated as direct competitor. You can even play PS4 exclusives on PC thanks to PS Now and ports.

You cared enough to share your personal views and I didnt respond to it. So dont bother wasting the time.

Im saying Switch will get Japanese support but Xbox gets some as well. Especially content that appeals to the west. Which might skip Switch. Hence, Switch doesent get notable multiplat content like Xbox.

MS has games coming and even Sony has reduced its number of studios.

Saying SNES classic has original games is like saying Xbox BC has original games. Boy, what a dumb comment.

Again, youre making arguments that simply show youre out of touch. People are playing multiplat games on Xbox. Thats why it keeps getting games.

We’ve had this discussion before. Once newer games will make use of the new Ryzen based CPUs, Jaguar simply isn’t gonna cut it anymore.

6-7 years would not be a short console cycle. The 7 years of last generation were/can be considered extraordinarily long. Sony stated at the start of this generation that they’re not planning to repeat this. All generations before were more like 5 years long.

Concerning the later release of a more powerful platform....It won’t change a thing. It doesn’t now and unless MS sells a more powerful platform for less money with a similar amount of exclusives MS is never going to come anywhere as close to Sony, as they were last gen, when Sony fucked up their start. Sony’s worldwide appeal is on a completely different level.

The exclusives Consoles share with PC when not talking about Xbox, are firstly 3rd party content and 2nd companies saving on costs of exclusivity by not making it totally exclusive. And we do know the company that decided to do this type of deal.

So since X1 doesn't have exclusives and PS4 have more 3rd parties than X1 is PS4 a better platform then?

Compare emulation and PSNow that comes a gen later to games being on the other platform day 1 is silly.

Please give appropriate constructive criticism for the PC platform.

Sure demanding better version is something they shall do. But determine what is the specs is bad. As I said some games will benefit more of resolution, performance or effects. But demanding all 4k60fps on the platform will make the dev cuts in other places that may make the experience inferior than the base version.

You know I meant console exclusive. PC is not 8treated as direct competitor. You can even play PS4 exclusives on PC thanks to PS Now and ports.

Im saying Switch will get Japanese support but Xbox gets some as well. Especially content that appeals to the west. Which might skip Switch. Hence, Switch doesent get notable multiplat content like Xbox.

MS has games coming and even Sony has reduced its number of studios.

Saying SNES classic has original games is like saying Xbox BC has original games. Boy, what a dumb comment.

Again, youre making arguments that simply show youre out of touch.

People are playing multiplat games on Xbox. Thats why it keeps getting games.

I'm not saying to enforce 4k, 60fps. - But there is zero reason why the Xbox One X should ever have a games rendered resolution drop below 1440P.

There is however zero reason for there to be a performance/image quality parity with the base consoles, the Playstation 4 Pro and Xbox One X are a step above those.

Then they aren't Playstation 4 exclusives are they?

The Xbox as a platform has never been a Japanese powerhouse and you know it.

I know Microsoft has games coming, pretty sure I stated prior that I was excited to see what 2018 brings? 2017 was a colossal failure on the games front for Xbox, no denying it.

Get back to me when Original Xbox Backwards Compatibility on the Xbox One has a meaningful list of games.
I have had more fun playing the SNES Classic than the Xbox One X, that's the truth, that is my opinion, don't like it? Stiff.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I wholeheartedly disagree.

Except there are more people playing those same multiplat games on other platforms.
You need exclusives to draw gamers in, once you have drawn gamers in with exclusives, you sell them all the other crap like Multiplats, services, DLC and so on.
No one was ever going to buy a base Xbox One on release to play the latest Call of Duty when the Playstation 4 was offering a superior experience at a lower price, well. Unless you were blindly loyal to the Xbox brand anyway.

I would NEVER have bought an Original Xbox 15+ years ago if it wasn't for Halo, which was a timed exclusive on the Xbox and ported to PC later.
That single game made gamers, heck the entire industry take Microsoft seriously in the console space.
Halo 2 continued that trend... And Halo 3 essentially went Viral and put the Xbox 360 on the map.

It was exclusives that drew me into the Xbox platform... And it was exclusives that enticed me to buy every console release, buy a ton of accessories, buy Xbox Live Gold for the last decade, buy hundreds and hundreds of games.

And you know what? Unless Microsoft fixes its rubbish exclusive situation, the Xbox One X will be the last Xbox console I will ever own... And that is Microsoft's own fault, they aren't meeting my expectations, needs, wants or desires.

X1X dips to 1080p in games pushing for 60 fps. Sometimes the bottle neck is GPU.  Eventually I think we will see X1X games hitting 1080p at 30 fps because of great visuals. But those games will probably use dymamic resolutions for higher resolutions as well.

Hah, I didnt even imply Xbox was a Japanes powerhouse. But it has a decent userbase and can handle PS4 games so it gets Japanese support.

Xbox BC has a ton of critically acclaimed games and some have active online populations. But okay, I guess your opinion is all that matters.

If you dont think Xbox BC has meaningful games, youre objectively out of touch.

But there is a significant audience playing multiplat games on Xbox. Spin it anyway you want but thats why its supported. This may be X1's best year in sales, or maybe just another solid year, so that support will continue. MS has games coming as well, several in early 2018.

Doesn't say much when my Xbox One X can't output past 1080P on my display anyway.

It gets hardly any Japanese support. That has always been a thorn in Xbox's side, to some that actually matters and that is a fair criticism. (I'm not one of them however.)
Microsoft did try to turn that around at one point with exclusives like Blue Dragon, Naruto and so on...

Xbox Backwards Compatibility. (Original Xbox that is as I never stipulated the 360.) has no active online populations as the online got shut down years ago.
There is also only a dozen games in the list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_compatible_with_Xbox_One

Significant is all relative. It is an insignificant audience next to the PC and Playstation 4, in-fact the lack of player populations in some multiplatform games is especially jarring and are barren wastelands in the Oceania region, making the multiplayer component useless.

Your responses are assumptions I wasnt making.

I think PS4 is arguably the better the better platform for numerous reasons. But I still prefer MS's games over Sony's so personal preference still matters. Eitherway I own both.

Sounds like you missed my point entirely on PS Now. PS3 and PS4 content is playable on PC via PS Now is because Sony doesent see PC as a real threat. As I stated before PC is not a direct competitor like a console.

It's DRM infested and full of Micro-transaction fueled asset flippers.

I'm not saying to enforce 4k, 60fps. - But there is zero reason why the Xbox One X should ever have a games rendered resolution drop below 1440P.

There is however zero reason for there to be a performance/image quality parity with the base consoles, the Playstation 4 Pro and Xbox One X are a step above those.

Then they aren't Playstation 4 exclusives are they?

The Xbox as a platform has never been a Japanese powerhouse and you know it.

I know Microsoft has games coming, pretty sure I stated prior that I was excited to see what 2018 brings? 2017 was a colossal failure on the games front for Xbox, no denying it.

Get back to me when Original Xbox Backwards Compatibility on the Xbox One has a meaningful list of games.
I have had more fun playing the SNES Classic than the Xbox One X, that's the truth, that is my opinion, don't like it? Stiff.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I wholeheartedly disagree.

Except there are more people playing those same multiplat games on other platforms.
You need exclusives to draw gamers in, once you have drawn gamers in with exclusives, you sell them all the other crap like Multiplats, services, DLC and so on.
No one was ever going to buy a base Xbox One on release to play the latest Call of Duty when the Playstation 4 was offering a superior experience at a lower price, well. Unless you were blindly loyal to the Xbox brand anyway.

I would NEVER have bought an Original Xbox 15+ years ago if it wasn't for Halo, which was a timed exclusive on the Xbox and ported to PC later.
That single game made gamers, heck the entire industry take Microsoft seriously in the console space.
Halo 2 continued that trend... And Halo 3 essentially went Viral and put the Xbox 360 on the map.

It was exclusives that drew me into the Xbox platform... And it was exclusives that enticed me to buy every console release, buy a ton of accessories, buy Xbox Live Gold for the last decade, buy hundreds and hundreds of games.

And you know what? Unless Microsoft fixes its rubbish exclusive situation, the Xbox One X will be the last Xbox console I will ever own... And that is Microsoft's own fault, they aren't meeting my expectations, needs, wants or desires.

X1X dips to 1080p in games pushing for 60 fps. Sometimes the bottle neck is GPU.  Eventually I think we will see X1X games hitting 1080p at 30 fps because of great visuals. But those games will probably use dymamic resolutions for higher resolutions as well.

We can split hairs but you know what I meant by exclusive.

Hah, I didnt even imply Xbox was a Japanes powerhouse. But it has a decent userbase and can handle PS4 games so it gets Japanese support.

Xbox BC has a ton of critically acclaimed games and some have active online populations. But okay, I guess your opinion is all that matters.

If you dont think Xbox BC has meaningful games, youre objectively out of touch.

But there is a significant audience playing multiplat games on Xbox. Spin it anyway you want but thats why its supported. This may be X1's best year in sales, or maybe just another solid year, so that support will continue. MS has games coming as well, several in early 2018.