The wisdom of the 6Tf vs 4Tf

[DonFerrari]

Mr Puggsly said:

DonFerrari said:

The exclusives Consoles share with PC when not talking about Xbox, are firstly 3rd party content and 2nd companies saving on costs of exclusivity by not making it totally exclusive. And we do know the company that decided to do this type of deal.

So since X1 doesn't have exclusives and PS4 have more 3rd parties than X1 is PS4 a better platform then?

Compare emulation and PSNow that comes a gen later to games being on the other platform day 1 is silly.

Your responses are assumptions I wasnt making.

I think PS4 is arguably the better the better platform for numerous reasons. But I still prefer MS's games over Sony's so personal preference still matters. Eitherway I own both.

Sounds like you missed my point entirely on PS Now. PS3 and PS4 content is playable on PC via PS Now is because Sony doesent see PC as a real threat. As I stated before PC is not a direct competitor like a console.

No problems with preference. I have no issue with someone saying PS4 have 5x more exclusives than X1 (arbitrary assumption), but Halo alone makes me preffer X1. I don't like shooters, but I can see someone that like having X1 as their choice platform.

Except you may be wrong and the reason for PSNow be on PC is exactly because Sony see PC as a threat or opportunity depending on how the tackle the market. If they ignore PC it will be a threat with people that don't buy console and have the multiplats on PC and therefore see little reason to expend extra bucks to buy a console... but if they release PSNow they not only get some extra bucks from 3rd parties sold/rented there but also get people interested in Sony IPs to buy a PS platform or at least buy the games there.

Either way, PC being a threat or not, or Sony and MS considering it like this or not, doesn't make the point of exclusives less relevant.

Pemalite said:

Hynad said:

Please give appropriate constructive criticism for the PC platform.

It's DRM infested and full of Micro-transaction fueled asset flippers.

DonFerrari said:

Sure demanding better version is something they shall do. But determine what is the specs is bad. As I said some games will benefit more of resolution, performance or effects. But demanding all 4k60fps on the platform will make the dev cuts in other places that may make the experience inferior than the base version.

I'm not saying to enforce 4k, 60fps. - But there is zero reason why the Xbox One X should ever have a games rendered resolution drop below 1440P.

There is however zero reason for there to be a performance/image quality parity with the base consoles, the Playstation 4 Pro and Xbox One X are a step above those.

Mr Puggsly said:

You know I meant console exclusive. PC is not 8treated as direct competitor. You can even play PS4 exclusives on PC thanks to PS Now and ports.

Then they aren't Playstation 4 exclusives are they?

Mr Puggsly said:

Im saying Switch will get Japanese support but Xbox gets some as well. Especially content that appeals to the west. Which might skip Switch. Hence, Switch doesent get notable multiplat content like Xbox.

The Xbox as a platform has never been a Japanese powerhouse and you know it.

Mr Puggsly said:

MS has games coming and even Sony has reduced its number of studios.

I know Microsoft has games coming, pretty sure I stated prior that I was excited to see what 2018 brings? 2017 was a colossal failure on the games front for Xbox, no denying it.

Mr Puggsly said:

Saying SNES classic has original games is like saying Xbox BC has original games. Boy, what a dumb comment.

Get back to me when Original Xbox Backwards Compatibility on the Xbox One has a meaningful list of games.
I have had more fun playing the SNES Classic than the Xbox One X, that's the truth, that is my opinion, don't like it? Stiff.

Mr Puggsly said:

Again, youre making arguments that simply show youre out of touch.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I wholeheartedly disagree.

Mr Puggsly said:

People are playing multiplat games on Xbox. Thats why it keeps getting games.

Except there are more people playing those same multiplat games on other platforms.
You need exclusives to draw gamers in, once you have drawn gamers in with exclusives, you sell them all the other crap like Multiplats, services, DLC and so on.
No one was ever going to buy a base Xbox One on release to play the latest Call of Duty when the Playstation 4 was offering a superior experience at a lower price, well. Unless you were blindly loyal to the Xbox brand anyway.

I would NEVER have bought an Original Xbox 15+ years ago if it wasn't for Halo, which was a timed exclusive on the Xbox and ported to PC later.
That single game made gamers, heck the entire industry take Microsoft seriously in the console space.
Halo 2 continued that trend... And Halo 3 essentially went Viral and put the Xbox 360 on the map.

It was exclusives that drew me into the Xbox platform... And it was exclusives that enticed me to buy every console release, buy a ton of accessories, buy Xbox Live Gold for the last decade, buy hundreds and hundreds of games.

And you know what? Unless Microsoft fixes its rubbish exclusive situation, the Xbox One X will be the last Xbox console I will ever own... And that is Microsoft's own fault, they aren't meeting my expectations, needs, wants or desires.

I agree with you that considering PS4Pro 2x something stronger than PS4 on GPU side and X1X 4x over X1 they could demand equivalent pixel count improvement (because that is even the easiest upgrade they can make between HW), but being to rigid with the improvements may not help much. But sure as well if MS and Sony doesn't go strong on the upgrades requirements their premium platforms will have low strenght, but on this Sony strategy is more on the PSVR and a little on the better pixel count for 4k TVs.