The wisdom of the 6Tf vs 4Tf

[DonFerrari]

 

Pemalite said:

Ruler said:

Yes most games do downsample. You would know if you would take the time and read your own link you have posted, only around 20 games do not downsample from 267 PS4 Pro games in total https://www.resetera.com/threads/all-games-with-ps4-pro-enhancements.3101

That is the real kicker isn't it? The majority of games that will be run on a Playstation 4 Pro are... *Drumroll* base Playstation 4 games.
It's the same issue that plagues the Xbox One X.

DonFerrari said:

Sure. But I was talking more about Sony demanding all games to have a 4k mode, or any other mandated feature, that could make devs make some games prettier but also could destroy other games. That is why I said the games I have been buying and playing look pretty already without Sony needing to enforce. And I also prefer that MS had dropped some of the mandatory points on their X1X

Well. Sony and Microsoft should force requirements for their "premium" machines to have some sort of improvement over the base machine going forward.
It doesn't need to be anything massive though... But just enough so that people feel they got their money's worth.

Sure demanding better version is something they shall do. But determine what is the specs is bad. As I said some games will benefit more of resolution, performance or effects. But demanding all 4k60fps on the platform will make the dev cuts in other places that may make the experience inferior than the base version.

Mr Puggsly said:

Pemalite said:

Doesn't matter to me. PC competes with the consoles as well.

Whether you care or not is irrelevant. I will voice my personal thoughts either way.

In reference to a chunk of Japanese based games.

IF those kinds of games don't appeal to you, then it ultimately doesn't matter.

Considering the Xbox has become a minority in the console gaming space as far as sales is concerned with the Switch also set to dominate it... I wouldn't say your views are reflective of the wider industry either.

And again, you knew I meant console exclusive while the PC audience is not a direct competitor per se. Which is why PC sometimes shares games even when a company buys exclusivity.

Your personal voice wasn't asked for and I didn't respond to it. I'm speaking in more general terms so your personal thoughts will mostly be ignored. Might as well go talk to a wall at that rate.

Switch hasn't really gotten the big Japanese support yet. It'll come but that's a market Sony and Nintendo primarily fight for. Xbox just gets some of it because it has an audience, easy to port and extra money, like FFXV and MGSV.

X1 may be a minority console but it still has a very viable userbase, unlike Wii U which ultimately killed Nintendo in the home console arena. Switch is simply doubling down on handheld which was always successful.

So you played SNES Classic more than X1? What does that even prove? Odds are you played games found on X1 but on other platforms. This is why your anecdotal comments add nothing, you're simply out of touch. "I played multiplat games on other machines so therefore X1 has nothing to play." This is basically your logic and its an ignorant perspective.

The exclusives Consoles share with PC when not talking about Xbox, are firstly 3rd party content and 2nd companies saving on costs of exclusivity by not making it totally exclusive. And we do know the company that decided to do this type of deal.

So since X1 doesn't have exclusives and PS4 have more 3rd parties than X1 is PS4 a better platform then?

Mr Puggsly said:

Pemalite said:

Disagree.
Exclusive by it's very definition means it is only available on 1 platform.

Releasing a game on the Xbox... With about 30~ million consoles.... And then releasing it on the PC which numbers in the Billions is not exclusive, calling it a console exclusive is disingenuous and is thus the moving of goal posts to make people of their (Insert console of choice here) feel better about themselves.

Don't care.

Switch hasn't gotten any kind of support yet, but I listed it in the list because, well. Prior examples and all that... Unless you are suggesting I am somehow incorrect and that the Switch will not have more Japanese titles than the Xbox?

If that was the case Microsoft would be investing in games and studio's and not cancelling and closing them down.

That there is more worth with the SNES classic than the Xbox One in terms of original games and content?

Or you know... The Xbox One could actually start having exclusives like they used to. - That's not anecdotal by the way, that's a fact.

 

Correct. I did play mutliplat games on other machines that provided not only superior image quality, but superior performance and for a lower price. (I.E. ACTUALLY BEYOND 1080P!)
And yes, that is logic, thanks for recognizing it.

For a user like myself, what would you suggest I play? PUBG? That game is a technical laughing case, fact of the matter is... If Microsoft wants me to buy it's games on Xbox, it has to actually bother to release them exclusively. - I am not going to kiss their feet and give them endless praise for giving me an inferior experience compared to other platforms, that is stupid.

Fact is, the Xbox One has no exclusives, there is ZERO reason for me to power it on or buy games for it... And that is certainly in stark contrast to the Original Xbox and Xbox 360 which did actually have exclusive games and that I actually did have a ton of fun with.

The main difference between us is that I am not an apologetic towards any console/brand, I own an Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One X and can give appropriate constructive criticism.

You know I meant console exclusive. PC is not 8treated as direct competitor. You can even play PS4 exclusives on PC thanks to PS Now and ports.

You cared enough to share your personal views and I didnt respond to it. So dont bother wasting the time.

Im saying Switch will get Japanese support but Xbox gets some as well. Especially content that appeals to the west. Which might skip Switch. Hence, Switch doesent get notable multiplat content like Xbox.

MS has games coming and even Sony has reduced its number of studios.

Saying SNES classic has original games is like saying Xbox BC has original games. Boy, what a dumb comment.

Again, youre making arguments that simply show youre out of touch. People are playing multiplat games on Xbox. Thats why it keeps getting games.

Compare emulation and PSNow that comes a gen later to games being on the other platform day 1 is silly.