Aren't the microtransactions a part of the croudfunding?

How could they be? Didn't they get funded on kickstarter or something? 

Elite Dangerous? 

I was on about the system to run the game, not the layout setup. 

This is also getting off topic already btw, so we should keep on track.

Yeah, but I assume the microtransactions are helping found the game as well.

Lumberjack is based on the architecture of CryEngine. If it's not using cryteks codes then I think there is no problem.
 

We would need the purchase terms to be sure what was the clauses. And again their licensing through Amazon may have had other issues that open for the suing. But sure considering both points I wouldn't put that CIG done it out of ill intent.

Before knowing the details we don't know how much of the burden is deserved to them.

Sure, if Amazon have total control over every aspect of the engine and can use any way without Amazon or any licensed needing to make any mention of Crytek, etc, then Crytek would be totally of and will lose money on the suing... I don't think they are dumb enough to put a sue in a case like this. At most they would look for a settling with CIG pressuring they to pay to not get the game in trouble, going to the court will just make things slower.

Crytek has been struggling and on the verge of bankruptcy for years, due to poor decisions; decisions such as focusing on graphics over gameplay and story, and then ending AAA development and focusing on F2P and VR.

Everybody is going with Unreal 4 instead of CryEngine 5 and Crytek is on their last legs now, they've sold just about everything they can sell to stay afloat, and they're hoping to win some money here to stay afloat longer.

How could they be? Didn't they get funded on kickstarter or something? 

I just looked it up. They only funded 2.1 million through kickstarter. So yeah, they've been counting the microtransactions as part of the "crowdfunding" for this game. That's how they are able to say the game was funded for over 100 million or whatever. It's nothing but a bunch of marketing lies. 

...That is what I said. Essentially.

Well. If the engine purchase terms is enough to give them total control of the engine in the event Crytek folded/Got sold off, then we can assume Cloud Imperium Games is in a very good legal position either way.

One must assume that Amazon will be dragged into this at some point as well, THAT will be interesting if it happens.

Crytek focusing on "graphics" is what put them on the map in the first place, FarCry and Crysis being prime examples. Crysis sold especially well on PC as it essentially became a viral meme.

And then Crysis 2 happened, the game felt small, confined and scaled back compared to the first game, mostly because they had to pander for lower-end console platforms, which could be argued that it damaged the brand.

When they also lost the ability to pay their employees, they lost allot of vital people who helped develop CryEngine itself, some even went over to Bethesda to help build out iD Tech.
You can't just get that talent back overnight either.

But you are right... Unless the developer/publisher is using it's own engine, then chances are they are licensing Unreal Engine 4.

Because the funding continued after the initial kickstarter campaign and continues to this very day.
Those "Microtransactions" have accrued 170 million smacko's to fund and make the game.

Although I am of the firm belief that the microtransactions are stupidly excessive.

How it is a lie when they are using the sale of those digital goods to build the game? It's not like they haven't been upfront about where their revenue is coming from, they have actually been extremely transparent.

I mean, after the game is made, then sure. It will likely be profit.
I am actually interested to see what the company does after StarCitizen is released.

How it is a lie when they are using the sale of those digital goods to build the game? It's not like they haven't been upfront about where their revenue is coming from, they have actually been extremely transparent.

The thing is, is that graphics are one with going for the game, but it also features more than just graphics. Like being able to fly from a space station, straight to a entering a planet's atmosphere and flying around that planet, choosing where you wish to land, rather than magically teleporting to a base on that planet or being on rails and guided towards a base. 

Then there are the mechanics involved with getting out of your ship in the middle of space, as well as transverse on a planet with low gravity by foot or vehicle. The fact that we have to enter our ships via calling down a small lift, opening the hatch by hand, calling the lift up, going inside the ship and walking towards your seat, sitting down and starting up your ship, making sure all systems are go, is something that not many space sim games out there do, let alone many open world games in general. People really dig the level of immersion that the game gives, and the graphics are just a part of the game that adds to it overall. 

It may have been what put them on the map, but it was also what ultimately lead to their downfall. Their AAA budgets were just too high for the level of sales they were getting, because that level of graphical fidelity is expensive. Crysis 3 cost them $66m to develop despite only having 23 months of development with a team of 100 people, and the sales just didn't justify that budget, which is why EA dropped them instead of funding a new AAA Crysis. Ryse ultimately failed as well due to focusing on graphics over gameplay and story. Now they are just a shell of what they once were, focusing on F2P and VR games. 

That's not crowdfunding though, it's sales.