You didn't like Rogue One? I loved it. In retrospect, I find it was a much better movie than The Force Awakens.

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I won't read critics since I want to know next to nothing about the plot when I go see it at the premiere tomorrow but this score makes me hopeful it'll be good!

I know that I loved TFA when it came out and then I got to see the flaws in it. The most glaring one being that it follows A New Hope much too closely but it did a great job of introducing new characters that we care about and setting things in place for The Last Jedi.

Also, I'd say Attack of the Clones is the worst of the prequels, it's almost unwatchable.

"I hate Star Wars" is a new hipster thing?

There was an interview with someone in charge that was to the effect of casting diversity or especially having a woman lead because they want to get the woman viewer demographic to like star wars.

The person said that star wars fans are so die hard that they could do anything and they would still go and watch the film, so they aren't worried at all about trying to please them, but instead go after the non star wars fans and try and convert them to such.

For me it was disappointing. I'd probably rank it fifth, behind the original trilogy and TFA, and ahead of the prequel trilogy. 

I think it has a few good things going for it: 1) a treatment of the rebellion as occupying a moral gray zone; 2) some great visual effects and cinematography; and 3) a spectacular third-act space battle, arguably the best in the entire series.

Now, the bad.

The characters are uninteresting, apart from K-2SO. Krennic is a toothless and unmemorable villain. Erso is boring, and usually a passive onlooker in her own movie. The rest of the supporting cast struggles to be noticed. A movie with a large ensemble cast like this can work -- look at The Guns of Navarone or Ocean's 11 -- but you need a bunch of sympathetic or dynamic characters.

Reshoots really hurt the flow, the pacing, and the content of the movie. If Edwards had been allowed to film unencumbered, I think the final product would have been better. The first two acts drag and drag, setting up an admittedly rousing third act finale.

The digital actors. Every time the cartoon that was Grand Moff Tarkin showed up on screen, I was immediately thrown out of the action and reminded, awkwardly and painfully, that I was watching a movie. The same goes for Carrie Fisher's digital cameo, which is the last thing we see in the film. What a terrible way to punctuate what was a thrilling, breathless scene just before.

Fan service. To be fair, TFA is also guilty of this, and of mining the recognizable people, places, and things we now associate with Star Wars. But Rogue One took it too far. Darth Vader's role was too big -- a product of reshoots, from what I understand. The appearance of Ponda Baba and Dr. Evazan was gratuitous, as was Bail Organa's cameo. It goes on and on: R2-D2, C-3PO, Red Leader, Whills, Yavin Base, and of course that awful final shot.

I remain sceptical. The Force Awakens was also very well received by critics, but was actually pretty horrendous.
There has only really been two good Star Wars movies ever. The first one is of course the best, then Empire Strikes Back, both still have their issues and are nowhere near as good as they are made out to be, but at least somewhat enjoyable.
But it is a franchise that has this fanatical following that will watch whatever crap that gets released with the name Star Wars on it.

I dunno how to feel about the last movie, but I'm still eager to watch it. Rogue One on the other hand was a joy to watch.

I liked it for a one-off side story. Also, I was really glad to see mah boi Donnie Yen in the movie.

Sounds like it's full of the usual Disney sjw agenda. Dopey male characters need to be constantly saved by assertive female leads. And that's coming from ET Canada. Was really hoping for something darker, similar to Rogue One's final act.

I agree. I did not really like the characters. But overall I enjoyed the movie. I guess had it been a saga film the way I felt about the character would have been a bigger deal.