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Excellent numbers, especially considering Mario Odyssey only came out at the end of October. Glad to hear Spla2n doing well also.

That hybrid part of the system is definitely a plus side.



 

              

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My guess is he is refering to US numbers solely. Splatoon is already over 2.5m WW.



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Wow. That’s an impressive attach rate.



AlfredoTurkey said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Which region has the largest percentage of handheld gamers? Japan.   After that handhelds are important to NA, then Europe, then the rest of the world, in that order.

Where does Switch have the highest demand?  Japan, clearly, then NA, then Europe, and then the rest of the world in that order.

I agree with Japan. We all knew that being a handheld would yield results there. But the Switch is toe-to-toe with PS4 in the US and that's where the hypothesis falls apart.

Going toe to toe with the PS4 explains my hypothesis perfectly.  The normal home gamers are buying PS4, while the handheld gamers are buying Switch.  Both are selling well, because they are two different groups of people.



So if its US only (or NoA) then we have

(US) 3.4mil switches...

Splatoon2 850k+
SMO/BotW/MKDX 1.7mil+

Makes sense if these are as of dec 10th thats 2 extea weeks.

So switch maybe closer to 3.8mil so i say all those games are over 2mil and splatoon over 1mil



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Sorry, but I don't care if a WiiU port sold amazing. What about third parties?



The_Liquid_Laser said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

I agree with Japan. We all knew that being a handheld would yield results there. But the Switch is toe-to-toe with PS4 in the US and that's where the hypothesis falls apart.

Going toe to toe with the PS4 explains my hypothesis perfectly.  The normal home gamers are buying PS4, while the handheld gamers are buying Switch.  Both are selling well, because they are two different groups of people.

While there is a group that exclusively buys portables, that group is rather small. Sony themselves have said that many of the people the purchase Switch are Playstation 4 owners. The stationary systems and the portable systems compliment each other. Many of the people that bought GB/GBA/PSP/DS/Vita/3DS also had stationary systems. Now how appealing Switch will remain to both portable gamers and people that have stationary systems but also want a portable companion will depend on software output (both quality and quantity) and price. For software output going into 2018 it can really go both ways since we have very few clues as to what Nintendo is going to announce. The price though, IMO, is a bit too high for this level of momentum that the system has had thus far to continue (I believe a significant price cut may be necessary by next year to maintain momentum).

The argument that there is no overlap is akin to saying there are people that buy PCs and there people that buy smartphones but not both (which is obviously not true).

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nemo37 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Going toe to toe with the PS4 explains my hypothesis perfectly.  The normal home gamers are buying PS4, while the handheld gamers are buying Switch.  Both are selling well, because they are two different groups of people.

While there is a group that exclusively buys portables, that group is rather small. Sony themselves have said that many of the people the purchase Switch are Playstation 4 owners. The stationary systems and the portable systems compliment each other. Many of the people that bought GB/GBA/PSP/DS/Vita/3DS also had stationary systems. Now how appealing Switch will remain to both portable gamers and people that have stationary systems but also want a portable companion will depend on software output (both quality and quantity) and price. For software output going into 2018 it can really go both ways since we have very few clues as to what Nintendo is going to announce. The price though, IMO, is a bit too high for this level of momentum that the system has had thus far to continue (I believe a significant price cut may be necessary by next year to maintain momentum).

The argument that there is no overlap is akin to saying there are people that buy PCs and there people that buy smartphones but not both (which is obviously not true).

Now you are putting words into my mouth (referring to the bold).  There is a handheld market.  There is a home console market.  There is some overlap between them.  I would love to see hard data on the overlap, but to my knowledge there isn't any.  So you can't analyze things like home only or handheld only, unless there is data on that.

What you can do however is analyze the markets as separate markets, even if the customers overlap.  Because the handheld market data behaves one way, and the home console market data behaves another.  Right now Switch is selling very much like the handheld market does in it's first year: Very popular in Japan, while also somewhat popular in NA, Europe, and the rest of the world (in that order).