How is it even possible that you don't know that something being true 3000 years ago doesn't mean you can just pretend it's been true for all the time inbetween as well. It hasn't. The genocidal lunatics hadn't been there for thousands of years and have no legitimate claim to the land. The Palestinians have been there much longer and do have a claim to the land. The land rightfully belongs to Palestine.

Another example would be France who took some territory from Germany after world war 1 (Alsace-Lorraine) and never returned it...

My point being that this issue depends very much on the country and on the history of the land. And even if we agreed to call Israel imperialists (which I do not), there are precedents by countries like France. Even the US can be considered imperialistic when it made war to the American Natives known as Indians to take their land. And I won't even talk about the UK and North Ireland...

As for Israel most of the land there was theirs a very long time ago (Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judah) The Philistines had a strip of land roughly where the Gaza strip is today but the west bank is historically Jewish. So if you refer to the Israel as made by the UN in 1947 then yeah, you have a bit of a point but if you take into account land that was Jewish before it was palestinian then Israel is only taking back land that is historically speaking, theirs. And beyond that, I guess it will become a matter of opinion. Do they have the right to take back what was theirs or not?

I can understand that you disagree but in exchange you must understand that 1: other countries like France, the US, the UK and probably more have taken land from others that was NEVER theirs to begin with, at least Israel is only taking back what was theirs long ago. 2: The real issue here goes beyond the issue of land. Muslims are absolutely mad about the fact that non muslims live and have a state right in the middle of theirs and I'm talking about all the countries surrounding Israel, so the issue here is not just palestine, but to get rid of people that though with the same historical origin (sons of Abraham) as the other people in that region, have DARED to follow their beliefs instead of becoming muslims. Which is why peace is pretty much impossible cause what palestinians really want is the destruction of Israel which is exactly why I can understand that Israel deals with them in a tough way and not only should take the west bank who historically has been theirs but since the palestinians only wish for their destruction, there will never be peace in that region, until the palestinians are driven out of that land. The logic is clear: if there are no palestinians in the west bank there is no war to be waged with the west bank.

Again I can understand your side of the argument, the "legal" situation made by the UN in 1947. But like I'm explaining, this issue goes beyond what was simply legally decided in 1947.

They haven't been there for much longer though... they literally hadn't been there for thousands of years.

And the facts are you support terrorist scum. Simple.

They haven't been there for much longer though... they literally hadn't been there for thousands of years.

And the facts are you support terrorist scum. Simple.

Why not the opposite? I like Israel, they gave us Wonder Woman.

The Palestinian people can stay in Israel, they just have to be more... civilized.

They haven't been there for much longer though... they literally hadn't been there for thousands of years.

And the facts are you support terrorist scum. Simple.

It is simply not true that the Jews 'hadn't been there' for thousands of years.  There has never been a single period in the last 3,000 years in which there weren't Jews in Israel/Palestine.  The leader of the Jewish people around the world continued to be the Nasi (prince or president) of Israel, for hundreds of years until the Byzantines abolished the institution.  There were many Jewish revolts in Israel/Palestine against the Romans, Byzantines, and Persians for hundreds of years after Judea was destroyed.  There were Jews there when the Muslims conquered the land in the 600s.  There were Jews there when the Crusaders conquered it in the Middle Ages.  Safed has been the home of the Jewish kabbalists for the last 500 years.  The Jewish community of Hebron continued to live there uninterrupted for 3,000 years until the Hebron massacre of 1929.  Every census of Jerusalem from the 1800s shows that the city had a large Jewish majority then.

So the Jews have been there for much longer than the Palestinians but that must not be taken into account, fuck history right?

But the Palestinians have been there for a shorter time but that must be taken into account, history must be upheld?

Ok, you can hold double standards in your opinion but not only that is totally wrong and unfair, it is also completely unrealistic.

Let's get to the real issue here. You support the palestinians no matter what violence and terror they use, no matter what they would do if they had the power Israel had. And you know what? That's fine, it's your opinion so to that I'll oppose my opinion which is: I'm glad Israel have their land back, I'm glad they are more powerful and can defend themselves against those terrorists, I'm glad the US acknowledged their capital. We can discuss opinions rather than facts if you prefer, I don't have a problem with that either.

They haven't been there for much longer though... they literally hadn't been there for thousands of years.

And the facts are you support terrorist scum. Simple.