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Chrizum said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Left wing progressives and political correctness won here. Since the 9/11 event there has been a huge transition towards left wing progressive politics destroying the great days of conservatism and Capitalism. Europe, Australia and And America have become so left wing, so politically correct and more Socialist by the day it is a joke.
I wish I lived 50+ years ago and not endured the nonsense of left wing political correct hysteria.

Giving gay people equal rights = political correctness?

Everything good in this world is political correctness for the right-wingers, they seem to want the world to be as savage as it was before.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Left wing progressives and political correctness won here. Since the 9/11 event there has been a huge transition towards left wing progressive politics destroying the great days of conservatism and Capitalism. Europe, Australia and And America have become so left wing, so politically correct and more Socialist by the day it is a joke.
I wish I lived 50+ years ago and not endured the nonsense of left wing political correct hysteria.

Darn progress ruining this country!!!



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Left wing progressives and political correctness won here. Since the 9/11 event there has been a huge transition towards left wing progressive politics destroying the great days of conservatism and Capitalism. Europe, Australia and And America have become so left wing, so politically correct and more Socialist by the day it is a joke.
I wish I lived 50+ years ago and not endured the nonsense of left wing political correct hysteria.

Why does gay people having equal rights upset you so much?



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Left wing progressives and political correctness won here. Since the 9/11 event there has been a huge transition towards left wing progressive politics destroying the great days of conservatism and Capitalism. Europe, Australia and And America have become so left wing, so politically correct and more Socialist by the day it is a joke.
I wish I lived 50+ years ago and not endured the nonsense of left wing political correct hysteria.

Haha. No. But nice try at making a jab at the political ideology that you oppose.
Same-sex marriage isn't a left-wing/progressive issue.

Same sex marriage had bipartisan support.
That is... It was legalized under a conservative government and a big chunk of conservatives voted yes.
Ergo. Not a political correct/leftist/progressive idea. - You can go sit down or something now.

What I will do is take a page out of the conservative handbook that Pauline Hanson holds dear and simply say... If you don't like Australia and it's "nonesense" then get out.



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Goodnightmoon said:
Aeolus451 said:

You forget that all of LGBT used to be considered immoral, was against the law and wrong. Shit changed. Those groups are trying the same thing by weeding their way into LGBT. You're just denying it by saying it won't happen while they are trying day after day to get in while there's no or little of the LGBT pushing back.  

Not once in anything I wrote did I ever say that I'm against legalizing gay marriage because of any reason. Either stop projecting some position I don't have or bring up a strawman. I was just trying to get you to see his points about pedos mirroring the LGBT community's talking points. 

But homosexuality was unfairly illegal cause the society was wrong and they realized about it, however society is never going to accept something as pedophilia and bestiality because it makes all the sense of the world for those to be illegal, they are abusive, homosexuality is not abusive, the fact that you aren't able to see the differences is almost offensive, a healthy modern society is never going to accept any kind of sexual abuse.

The point your missing is love. Its okay for two men or two woman to marry yet a brother and sister or mother and son or father and daughter cannot? Why exactly? There both biologically ncorrect and many religions are against both yet we allowed one through yet not the others?

Australia is one of the most manipulating counties in the world. Don't be suprised in 10 years incest is legalised due to love is love.



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Azzanation said:
Goodnightmoon said:

But homosexuality was unfairly illegal cause the society was wrong and they realized about it, however society is never going to accept something as pedophilia and bestiality because it makes all the sense of the world for those to be illegal, they are abusive, homosexuality is not abusive, the fact that you aren't able to see the differences is almost offensive, a healthy modern society is never going to accept any kind of sexual abuse.

The point your missing is love. Its okay for two men or two woman to marry yet a brother and sister or mother and son or father and daughter cannot? Why exactly? There both biologically ncorrect and many religions are against both yet we allowed one through yet not the others?

Australia is one of the most manipulating counties in the world. Don't be suprised in 10 years incest is legalised due to love is love.

What do you know about biology to claim that? It would be biologically incorrect for 2 person of the same sex to try to have a baby by themself simply couse it wouldn't work for biological reasons, but there is absolutely nothing biologically incorrect about loving another person of your same sex, if there was, then it would harm the species in some way, and guess what? it doesn't, we are higly overpopulated and even if the whole humanity becomes gay they would still be able to reproduce if they really need it cause being homosexual doesn't destroy your hability to reproduce, however incest does harm the species, not only is usually a result of abuse (fathers and daughters, wtf??) but also if they reproduce there is a high chance of haviong childrens with genetical problems.

 Check your words and think about what you say cause you are reaching the line of homophobia with comments like that, love is a very complex thing, people don't need to reproduce to fall in love with each other, that happens both with straights and with gays and following the logic that if you can't reproduce with your parner you are biologically incorrect then we could say that sterile people are biologically incorrect, shouldn't they be able to fall in love and marry someone else because of that?



I'm glad to see my love and future marriage triggers so many people into rabid, angry, bitter people.



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Azzanation said:

Don't be suprised in 10 years incest is legalised due to love is love.

That is a slippery slope argument and thus a logical fallacy. Ergo. Incorrect.
Do I need to educate you on what a logical fallacy is?

Azzanation said:

The point your missing is love. Its okay for two men or two woman to marry yet a brother and sister or mother and son or father and daughter cannot? Why exactly? There both biologically ncorrect and many religions are against both yet we allowed one through yet not the others?

The main difference is that two same-sex people aren't going to be reproducing with each other.

Those in incestuous relationships potentially can... And the biological repercussions on children can potentially be catastrophic.

And that is why slippery slope arguments are stupid, because not only can it go as far back as you want (I.E. Heterosexuals being allowed to marry has resulted in LGBTQI people being allowed to marry and then potentially incest!) but you can conflate it with reasons that have nothing to do with it.




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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Left wing progressives and political correctness won here. Since the 9/11 event there has been a huge transition towards left wing progressive politics destroying the great days of conservatism and Capitalism. Europe, Australia and And America have become so left wing, so politically correct and more Socialist by the day it is a joke.
I wish I lived 50+ years ago and not endured the nonsense of left wing political correct hysteria.

Jesus gay marriage is somehow worse than living in a society with dramatically higher murder rates and crime? 

 

It's disgusting to see how insanely obsessed you are with generalizing anything slightly progressive as 'leftist liberal agenda'. You're the same as the fucking bigots conservatives rant about that live in the middle east.

Chrizum said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Left wing progressives and political correctness won here. Since the 9/11 event there has been a huge transition towards left wing progressive politics destroying the great days of conservatism and Capitalism. Europe, Australia and And America have become so left wing, so politically correct and more Socialist by the day it is a joke.
I wish I lived 50+ years ago and not endured the nonsense of left wing political correct hysteria.

Giving gay people equal rights = political correctness?

Duh! Fucking leeburals and their logic and common decency. Back in my day we got to make fun of dem negroes and faggots while we got to bang our cousins without people judging us. Nowadays people call ya a bad person for hitting on a teen or making fun of retarded people. Da audacity of these damn es-jay-double u's and their attempt at bringing equal rights for everyone.

 

(.../s needed?)



Goodnightmoon said:
Azzanation said:

The point your missing is love. Its okay for two men or two woman to marry yet a brother and sister or mother and son or father and daughter cannot? Why exactly? There both biologically ncorrect and many religions are against both yet we allowed one through yet not the others?

Australia is one of the most manipulating counties in the world. Don't be suprised in 10 years incest is legalised due to love is love.

What do you know about biology to claim that? It would be biologically incorrect for 2 person of the same sex to try to have a baby by themself simply couse it wouldn't work for biological reasons, but there is absolutely nothing biologically incorrect about loving another person of your same sex, if there was, then it would harm the species in some way, and guess what? it doesn't, we are higly overpopulated and even if the whole humanity becomes gay they would still be able to reproduce if they really need it cause being homosexual doesn't destroy your hability to reproduce, however incest does harm the species, not only is usually a result of abuse (fathers and daughters, wtf??) but also if they reproduce there is a high chance of haviong childrens with genetical problems.

 Check your words and think about what you say cause you are reaching the line of homophobia with comments like that, love is a very complex thing, people don't need to reproduce to fall in love with each other, that happens both with straights and with gays and following the logic that if you can't reproduce with your parner you are biologically incorrect then we could say that sterile people are biologically incorrect, shouldn't they be able to fall in love and marry someone else because of that?

You don't have to reproduce to love someone, that is a choice. Your basically saying love for gays is accepted because they cant have kids yet love for incest families is wrong because they can? 

We are talking about using the term love not which ones can reproduce which goes back to my original post. Using the term love is love is stupid because it opens up doors for others to use it.

Also don't accuse me for being a homophobic because i voted Yes and have plenty of gay friends who actually agree with me. Dont couldnt care if they got married and when they were allowed, they werent shouting it put arcoss the street advertising it. 

Us as humans will continue to change and we keep accepting more and more change. Again dont be suprised in 10 years we allowed incest marriage because of the term love.

 

Pemalite said:
Azzanation said:

Don't be suprised in 10 years incest is legalised due to love is love.

That is a slippery slope argument and thus a logical fallacy. Ergo. Incorrect.
Do I need to educate you on what a logical fallacy is?

Azzanation said:

The point your missing is love. Its okay for two men or two woman to marry yet a brother and sister or mother and son or father and daughter cannot? Why exactly? There both biologically ncorrect and many religions are against both yet we allowed one through yet not the others?

The main difference is that two same-sex people aren't going to be reproducing with each other.

Those in incestuous relationships potentially can... And the biological repercussions on children can potentially be catastrophic.

And that is why slippery slope arguments are stupid, because not only can it go as far back as you want (I.E. Heterosexuals being allowed to marry has resulted in LGBTQI people being allowed to marry and then potentially incest!) but you can conflate it with reasons that have nothing to do with it.


Who said incest have to reproduce? Love is love doesnt mean they have to have babies. Also theres a high chance of having babies with issues with gens too close but thats not 100% chance. People can have issues with babies at any gens so why should we seperate humans from loving each other. We allowed gays to so why not the rest?

That is the arguments we will come across.

For our sake lets hope Australia doeant give into it because we give into majority of changes.